PAM 382 Bronzo - QC Pics allowed Thread

[comfysofa]

I've returned my KW-V6Fac 3 times so far after they either had slanted dials, crooked numbers or had crown guards sticking too far out.

I've topped up a bit to test out a ZFac V4 and let's see how it goes. Will post QC pictures here once I get them. If this doesn't work out I'll give up on getting a bronzo completely lol. Probably get a 511. My skin tone only suits bronze/rose gold so it sucks that I can't get any of the better rep quality silver/ceremic ones haha. :doh:

 

[skraja69]

Will do when I get home from work

 

[PAM1983]

Im just going to say this, After reading the threads the last few days and also going back to other threads of pics where the ZF case was clearly plated I would disagree that none are plated and say that some are. I have seen some pictures that prove otherwise. This is just my opinion of course.

 

[Cydrone]

I have the ZF V4 I can tell is NOT plated. the Patina changes often which is typical behavior of live metal.

 

[comfysofa]

I gave up getting the PAM 382 KW after trying for 10 days with Kurvasit. Decided to get a 511 in the end. They did mention that the factories have told them the next batch release is in about 1 week if anyone's interested.

 

[PAM1983]

I gave up getting the PAM 382 KW after trying for 10 days with Kurvasit. Decided to get a 511 in the end. They did mention that the factories have told them the next batch release is in about 1 week if anyone's interested.

Oh Really...wonder if we can get pictures of the new release. Hopefully things will be fixed that have been addressed here throughout the past 4 months

 

[old_man]

Hey guys, just received the two KW Bronzo that I ordered from Toro. I have to say it's the most gorgeous PAM - perfect balance of elegance and muscle.

However, much to our excitement, both of our watches seems to have weirdly low power reserve - mine stopped after a full day of wearing and 12 hour on the table, friend's stopped after half day of wearing and about 10'hours on the table. Anyone know what's going on/encountered the problem with ST2555 mvts? It's a shame cuz the watch is so beautiful...

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[mysterio]

Did this low power reserve manifest itself after just a day of wearing? That's not enough to make a definitive statement. Wear it for around a week, see how it keeps the PR. Rep movements are a crap shoot, you either get a nice one or you don't. Best to have them serviced although from my side, never had an issue with any ST2555 based movement.

 

[old_man]

Did this low power reserve manifest itself after just a day of wearing? That's not enough to make a definitive statement. Wear it for around a week
, see how it keeps the PR. Rep movements are a crap shoot, you either get a nice one or you don't. Best to have them serviced although from my side, never had an issue with any ST2555 based movement.

Mysterio, to be exact it was after two days of full day wearing, then I put it down for the night, wake up, less than 12 hr, it stopped. Shook it a few and it started again.

I'll take ur advice and wear it for a full week. Now is it advisable to contact the TD about this if problem persists? Or just save the hassle and have it serviced?


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[mysterio]

Mysterio, to be exact it was after two days of full day wearing, then I put it down for the night, wake up, less than 12 hr, it stopped. Shook it a few and it started again.

I'll take ur advice and wear it for a full week. Now is it advisable to contact the TD about this if problem persists? Or just save the hassle and have it serviced?


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There isn't any guarantee from the TD in terms of power reserve, AFAIK. It's just supposed to work and keep time as indicated by the timegrapher result you might have received from your dealer. If you're not satisfied with the PR, a service would certainly improve it. But don't expect P.9000 performance.

 

[Ewing89]

A bit off topic...but my buckle for my 382 arrived today

Back to topic:

With 15 times winding my seagull runs without moving around 48h. When i got the bronzo on my wrist i never must wind again so i just need to wind to start. With some smooth regulation my seagull runs about +2s/d.

 

[comfysofa]

Oh Really...wonder if we can get pictures of the new release. Hopefully things will be fixed that have been addressed here throughout the past 4 months

Fully agree, and on the top of that list would be a better crown and CG. Will keep you guys updated, they're gonna send me a QC picture first thing when it hits the factories. Let's hope for the best.

 

[old_man]

There isn't any guarantee from the TD in terms of power reserve, AFAIK. It's just supposed to work and keep time as indicated by the timegrapher result you might have received from your dealer. If you're not satisfied with the PR, a service would certainly improve it. But don't expect P.9000 performance.

Thanks Mysterio - just an update the watch was fine last night after another full day of wearing. Regardless I'll get it serviced to make sure it has at least 30-40 hrs.

 

[old_man]

Love that strap you have on the bronzo - many people go with green straps to match the dial, but I think the red/black is what really makes the dial POP.

 

[pure b]

[MENTION=122166]comfysofa[/MENTION]
The crown guard doesn't have chamfered edges either

 

[PAM1983]

Guys we have to remember just because one person has a movement with subpar power reserve doesn't mean there is a issue. 1 out of 100000. It happens from time to time. That's the name of the game. It's not a huge deal. Trust me.

 

[Sultan Brunei]

So, what is the single most easiest way to distinguish latest KW (v3) with ZF (v4) at sight?

 

[CaptainShibal]

Could you guys look at the cg lever? Did they change it? The bronze on the cg lever looks very different from the case...

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=YnRzaUFNa0JVenJ4cE9FN1VFVEVabmVmVVNyM2VB

 

[CaptainShibal]

Also, any opinions on the bronze buckle?
The color looks way off too. TD says it's real bronze..

 

[Poolsfinest]

I like that particular aftermarket buckle. It seems a very different shade of bronze to the watch however.

Is that a KW? I only ask because several have seemed to have the CG lever problem that you have highlighted.