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Not worth buying in gen

timnic54

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Check out the Motortrend episode comparing the 911 to the Corvette Gran Sport. The Vette was the better handler. Crazy but true.


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My comments were just me being facetious. American cars do seem to have improved their handling over the years
 

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THE only watches worth buying Gen are the ones that mean something to you, and also not by the big brands, I mean Rolex etc, I mean the companies that are really watchmakers

I would never get a rep JLC


This is a beauty ! Which model is it ?
 

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To whoever suggested:
- Rolex Yacht-Master 116655 __ NOOB

I don't think any gold piece should make it to this list. The weight and looks are big enough tells to not make it worth it for many people on here.

When you say 'look' do you mean the issues with dial/bezel teeth/crown guard etc. or do you mean the look of the gold?


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When you say 'look' do you mean the issues with dial/bezel teeth/crown guard etc. or do you mean the look of the gold?


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I think also that Gold pieces should not be in this as the finish is always temporary and the weight is always very wrong. Therefore Gold watches are worth buying in Gen as there is a very real advantage over the Rep
 

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From personal experience I can tell you that old Rolex yellow gold watches have a very different look from anything else. Rolex reportedly used an alloy composition that favored copper (?), creating a rich, warm red gold tone. Disclosure: when I was a young lad, back in 1978, I wore a fake gold Rolex President with bark bracelet. I had a (horrible) fake, which was all that was available way back then, and had it gold plated. I threw money at it to make it better, but in the end, the gold tone alone was a giveaway. Owning a gen Rolex for 8-1/2 years now (which I will sell very soon), I would not want any gold-plated fake to be a solid-gold pretender. It's just too much.

On the same token, there are watches that require the whole package, namely Patek Philippe. Kids don't wear Pateks. Ralph Lauren wears 'em, CEOs of companies wear them, so it's a certain clientel. If you drive up with your Honda Civic with carbon fiber rear wing, wearing a Patek, any Patek, I can be 99.99% sure that it's a fake. If you step out of a new Rolls Royce Phantom, I can be fairly sure it's genuine.
 

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From personal experience I can tell you that old Rolex yellow gold watches have a very different look from anything else. Rolex reportedly used an alloy composition that favored copper (?), creating a rich, warm red gold tone. Disclosure: when I was a young lad, back in 1978, I wore a fake gold Rolex President with bark bracelet. I had a (horrible) fake, which was all that was available way back then, and had it gold plated. I threw money at it to make it better, but in the end, the gold tone alone was a giveaway. Owning a gen Rolex for 8-1/2 years now (which I will sell very soon), I would not want any gold-plated fake to be a solid-gold pretender. It's just too much.

On the same token, there are watches that require the whole package, namely Patek Philippe. Kids don't wear Pateks. Ralph Lauren wears 'em, CEOs of companies wear them, so it's a certain clientel. If you drive up with your Honda Civic with carbon fiber rear wing, wearing a Patek, any Patek, I can be 99.99% sure that it's a fake. If you step out of a new Rolls Royce Phantom, I can be fairly sure it's genuine.
True ... if you want people think your Rep is a Gen.
But if someone likes Patek (I dont) and is happy to wear one, even a gold plated one, and dont need to pretend it's a Gen ... where is the problem ?
Some Reps, even not really accurate, are real beauties ... that's enough for me to wear them.

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True ... if you want people think your Rep is a Gen.
But if someone likes Patek (I dont) and is happy to wear one, even a gold plated one, and dont need to pretend it's a Gen ... where is the problem ?
Some Reps, even not really accurate, are real beauties ... that's enough for me to wear them.

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Not caring if your watch looks like the Gen is just maybe a little self defeating as a pursuit, may as well just buy a nice watch. But hey, each to his own.
 

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Not caring if your watch looks like the Gen is just maybe a little self defeating as a pursuit, may as well just buy a nice watch. But hey, each to his own.
Who said I dont care ?
or at least I NEVER care ?

Some Reps I will want them perfectly Genlike ... cause I think the Gen is perfect.
Some Reps I will not really care ... cause I've never seen the Gen.
Some Reps I will not care AT ALL cause I'll never buy them (AP ... Gens or Reps I dislike the same).
Some Gens I will buy when I can afford.
I never buy "a nice watch", just a watch I really like ... can be a Rolex or a Timex.
I always wear Reps "as Reps" and Gens "as Gens".

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Surely the reason to buy a rep is so it looks without careful inspection like a gen otherwise a homage would do the job if the style was the same

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Surely the reason to buy a rep is so it looks without careful inspection like a gen otherwise a homage would do the job if the style was the same

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I disagree. I've always stayed away from homages like Steinharts because to me, they look cheaper because they're obviously homages/rip-offs.
 

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Surely the reason to buy a rep is so it looks without careful inspection like a gen otherwise a homage would do the job if the style was the same

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Sometimes YES
Sometimes NO
Depends of the GEN, the REP, the HOMAGE ... depends of so much things.
Depends of the buyer/wearer of course.

Think I could write pages about why I buy some Gens (few) and why I buy some Reps (more).
But nobody cares about that and that's quite normal.

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Sorry but no comparison I'll stick to my gen
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This is when the gen outweighs the rep

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Surely the reason to buy a rep is so it looks without careful inspection like a gen otherwise a homage would do the job if the style was the same

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Watch out, some of these guys will roast you for that.

I agree though. If the name on the watch and the accuracy with the gen, wasnt a big deciding factor in buying it, then all these watches would come unbranded/sterile. Fact of the matter is, 9/10 people buying reps, are buying reps because they want the name with the style. There are much better/more reliable watches with similar styling and better qc for the price of many of the reps out there.
 

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Watch out, some of these guys will roast you for that.

I agree though. If the name on the watch and the accuracy with the gen, wasnt a big deciding factor in buying it, then all these watches would come unbranded/sterile. Fact of the matter is, 9/10 people buying reps, are buying reps because they want the name with the style. There are much better/more reliable watches with similar styling and better qc for the price of many of the reps out there.
The logo and name are actually part of the design in every way. I think homages look kind of naked, unfinished and as a result a bit weird.
 

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The logo and name are actually part of the design in every way. I think homages look kind of naked, unfinished and as a result a bit weird.
Exactly a plain dial with no logo at all just looks off. It diesnt have to be a crown as rolex but some sort of logo

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