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That's pretty cool!
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That's pretty cool!
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That's my point. Swiss Watches became desirable years ago for just that very thing but that train has left the station for decades.
It's merely a fashion accessory for most people and a status symbol for some (in which case buying a Rep would make you a chump) so $5000 - $15,000 for a fashion accessory is simply not worth it.
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The only gen I have...it's worth every penny:
IMO it really depends what it means to oneself...personally. There is no rational reason to buy an expensive watch.
IMO it really depends what it means to oneself...personally. There is no rational reason to buy an expensive watch.
I quite agree with you man... these manufacturers would have you believe about the research and technology that goes into these, and that they are handmade! etc etc yada yada..
there massive amounts of technology in everything around us also we use on a daily basis with thouasans of parts, computers, televisions, mobile phone are we charged a small fortune for these? no. and think of how many parts are to be made to go into your car, thousands!!! yes... watch manufacturers make something so tiny, made of stainless steel but it looks pretty so charge them 6 grand.. its a fuggin joke!
but would i buy gen... yes, im a lemming.. i still would buy gen if i had plenty free funds
Whether a wach is "worth it" or not really depends on how you look at it.
As a functional device yes spending 10+k on a watch is stupid. 99% of those "technologies" manufacturers squeeze into their cases are actually little more than ridiculous gimmicks. An accurate perpetual calendar is nice, but who needs it to be accurate for 300 years? A tourbillon, while useful in a stationary clock, is almost useless in a wristwatch.
Take it as a piece of artwork however, and the story changes. You can't rationalize art, do that to Monalisa and you get one hell of an expensive painted canvas. Same can be said about some.watches.
The former is how I see rolexes, APs, pams and the like. The latter is how I see pateks, VCs, and JLCs. I'd buy a gen VC is a heartbeat but a gen Rolex sub? I'd rather spend 3-5 grand less and buy an equivalently good, useful, and luxurious Omega or Tag.
As a functional device yes spending 10+k on a watch is stupid. 99% of those "technologies" manufacturers squeeze into their cases are actually little more than ridiculous gimmicks. An accurate perpetual calendar is nice, but who needs it to be accurate for 300 years? A tourbillon, while useful in a stationary clock, is almost useless in a wristwatch.
Take it as a piece of artwork however, and the story changes. You can't rationalize art, do that to Monalisa and you get one hell of an expensive painted canvas. Same can be said about some.watches.
The former is how I see rolexes, APs, pams and the like. The latter is how I see pateks, VCs, and JLCs. I'd buy a gen VC is a heartbeat but a gen Rolex sub? I'd rather spend 3-5 grand less and buy an equivalently good, useful, and luxurious Omega or Tag.
I agree.
All of which goes to the root of this thread.
There are indeed watches "not worth buying in gen"
There are of course also many watches well worth buying in gen, as they simply cannot be adequately made in rep.
Totally agree, to each his own....The only gen I have...it's worth every penny:
IMO it really depends what it means to oneself...personally. There is no rational reason to buy an expensive watch.
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I was going to sarcastically reply to your completely useless yet funny comment, but then realized you live in Asia and a lot can possibly be lost in translation and that might not have been your intent.
I know it's Omega brand my friend
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As an Asian myself, I'm pretty sure his comment was meant to be sarcastic/useless yet funny, lol. all in good fun.
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The other benefit to expensive gens is that they hold their value relatively well. So, as an investment they are another way for the wealthy to diversify their portfolio in addition to art, real estate, collector cars, etc. This is probably where the stigma began that wealthy folks own expensive Swiss watches.
Anyone that considers a Swiss watch as a reasonable investment needs to have their head checked.
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Millions of people do. If you own any assets and if you have an insurance policy for your home you will list these items on your insurance. If you apply for a collateral loan, you would again list jewelry, art, and real property as assets. Assets are investments.
It's generally a depreciating asset. Some cars go up in value too but it's generally not something anyone makes money on. I think this had probably been beat to death on other threads so my apologies for even going there. I own them out of love.
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80% of people that invest in the stock market lose money. At least you can wear your watch.
the way i see it is, even if i dont make any profit on my watches, atleast i get to wear the watch for free. If i buy a car, i would most likely lose money if i try to sell it in the future. plus a fancy watch goes unnoticed. A fancy car gets you in trouble. =)
Interesting thread...
I frequent a gen forum and the difference in perspective is like night and day.
Most members of that forum would never consider buying a replica watch - period. It's not only because they have unlimited funds, because many of them don't. It's mainly because they feel strongly that owning a real Rolex (AP, Patek, etc) is not only a status symbol but a reward for their hard work and achievements. Many also realize that replicas are illegal and would never even consider breaking the law. They are WIS's, just like the members here, but they know and study real brands not Noob, JF and ZF.
As someone who now owns a few genuine watches (i've thinned my replicas down to a few), I gotta say that, for me, there is no comparison between a genuine watch and it's fake counterpart. Not because of the quality so much, it just feels better wearing a real genuine watch. I have no problem with the legal aspect of fakes and I totally get the mindset of saving thousands of dollars for the same watch, but the reality is - it's not the same watch, it's a replica of the same watch.
I frequent a gen forum and the difference in perspective is like night and day.
Most members of that forum would never consider buying a replica watch - period. It's not only because they have unlimited funds, because many of them don't. It's mainly because they feel strongly that owning a real Rolex (AP, Patek, etc) is not only a status symbol but a reward for their hard work and achievements. Many also realize that replicas are illegal and would never even consider breaking the law. They are WIS's, just like the members here, but they know and study real brands not Noob, JF and ZF.
As someone who now owns a few genuine watches (i've thinned my replicas down to a few), I gotta say that, for me, there is no comparison between a genuine watch and it's fake counterpart. Not because of the quality so much, it just feels better wearing a real genuine watch. I have no problem with the legal aspect of fakes and I totally get the mindset of saving thousands of dollars for the same watch, but the reality is - it's not the same watch, it's a replica of the same watch.
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An illusion has been created over many years that a thing that tells time is worth $20,000 or $50,000. That's what marketers strive to achieve. And that's what powerful brands do over time.
A guy posted on one of these forums that worked at Rolex that a Rolex cost $500 plus the cost of precious metals used or diamonds to make. So rep pricing is what these things are actually worth and if they get stolen lost or scratched there is little attachment.
Many guys on here have mentioned they can afford gens but many of these reps are so good that it's a waste of money to buy gen. So are we stupid or smarter than a guy wearing a gen is the question?
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