I will also add- I am not telling anyone not to get this mod, but if this is what I think it is- it should be $40 NOT $195. But I will definitely report back my findings, but if you buy this now before we figure out exactly what this is, don't be mad if you spent the money before I report back how easy or not this is to get off (confirming if what this is or isn't)
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Noob ceramic insert with platinum plating
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Tigerdragon
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The insert indeed looks good.Huge improvement from the grey looking V7 V6 ceramic inserts. Has anyone seen the process that's being used here to modify these insert?
Yes, I can't remember who. But once I find the chemical that takes this off, I am going to try that same chemical on my gen. If it takes the platinum off the gen insert, I will simply bring the watch into my AD and they can get a new bezel insert. If it doesn't take it off the Gen but it takes it off this one there is definitely a problem.
Steve has replied to me saying he will send me a new insert, but My insert is not really what I am concerned about. I am concerned that everyone is getting what they think they are getting. So far since I have been in this hobby (not long at all) I have wasted probably about $2500 on stuff that I gave away, learning lessons costs money but not learning the lesson that you just lost your money on is ignorance.
The color of this insert is EXACTLY like my Gen's and looks great- but it better be what it was said to be and not another paint mod.
Well, even real platinum PVD process shouldn't cost more than 5$ per piece, as we are really talking about a few microns of coating. Anyone can price his work as much as he wants, however it's up to the buyer to decide if he is buying something or not.
His result is excellent, period.
His result is excellent, period.
As my previous result, the gen indices are plated with platinum, if you want to dissolve it, you can try "aqua regia".
Well, I got mine from Steve and it looks amazing tbh. and when side by side comparing with the gen insert, I couldn't really tell which is which. None of the anything you bought every single day worthes the money you paid if you only consider the production costs of which while ignoring there have been numerous trials, hours and man power of hard work spent on the piece. I am surprised that Steve actually sent you another one. Hope you would enjoy the insert like we all do. If you can't, you can always go gen.
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Pvd can be polished away.
Rolex does the same with their insert. They first pvd the top and the polish away the excess leaving the platinum only in the engraved numbers.
Polish can defenetly cut through metals.
So my suggestion would be to not mess with your gen using chemicals cause you'd probably ruin it. At least if your using aqua regia.
I'd just use a dremmel buffer for the sides and fix it myself.
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Well said. I think what he charges is fair because the equipement to do this is pretty expensive.
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I don't have this mod yet, but having read the thread, and having some idea of how things work, it's obvious what's going on here.
The inserts are PVD all over, then the faces are polished, on this one the edges haven't been polished. My opinion is that the backs need not be polished but the edges should be.
If it was mine I would hit the edges with 3000 grit wet and dry, then some polishing compound. It's a non issue to me.
The inserts are PVD all over, then the faces are polished, on this one the edges haven't been polished. My opinion is that the backs need not be polished but the edges should be.
If it was mine I would hit the edges with 3000 grit wet and dry, then some polishing compound. It's a non issue to me.
There are other methods that can analyse the composition without damage the sample, such as EDS, ESCA, AES and so on.
Again, I said this insert looks just like my Gen insert. But for the money to get a unfinished product is TOTALLY unacceptable. But here is what I am going to do since everyone thinks this is acceptable and that the rolex pvd can be polished away. I am going to test both this insert and my gen to see if this one is as durable. Then I will know for myself. But don't worry, I will not post my results. You can all find out for yourselves.
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I would never ever ruin a gen insert for that. He even said he sends you a new bezel so where is the problem? People make mistakes so come on i know the price is a bit high but don't understand where now the problem is. Its the best mod i've ever seen. Sure its bad that he sended you such a bezel but like i said people make mistakes even on gen watches i saw fuck ups.
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If you mess up your gen do you think Rolex will just "fix it" for you? This insert experiment will cost a lot more than the insert you bought from Steve
With all due respect this sounds a little like buyers remorse.
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If he ruins it, Rolex will give him their condolences and charge 1000 for a new bezel set.
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Whats actually with the guarantee from rolex? I thought you will lose it when you do self experiments or is that now "ok"? Read something on a blaken thread about that.
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Speak openly about what you think bro or pm me if you like to, please.
Just curious...