New Released Clean 3285 Movement(from Dandong) Compared With GEN and Shanghai 3285 Movement

[dogwood]

Hi all, just a quick question. I recently bought a Clean rootbeer with a VR3285 movement. I'm wanting to swap in a DD3285 but am unable to find any on ali express. Plenty of VR' available.

Are these movements exclusive to Clean. Is it possible to buy the movement only?

Yes, right now they’re exclusive to Clean. You might be able to get one through a TD if you ask nicely and the TD has a good relationship with Clean.

 

[Razzvan]

Here’s my timegraph of DD3285 QC, amplitude is not great, is this caused by bad mainspring? I’m not a genius on movements but does this mean it has lower power reserve?

I've got the same rate of +9s/d but with an amplitude of 304* and a beat error of 0.2ms on my new GMT2 from new AR+F movement VR3285 72hours. So you got a little sharper movement on your DD3285 "Pepsi" GMT, or which amplitude is better? the one closer to 0* or further away from 0*? I read somewhere that Rolex do not like more than 280° - I think it was because, if you run at higher amplitudes, you get a bigger drop after 24 hours. At 270-280° the idea is that a lower drop over 24 hours gives better timekeeping.

 

[Kup1712]

Will there be any comparison dd vs. new vr from @CTime in the future?

Saw some reviews and the accuracy and power reserve is indeed really good 68-72h.
I am more interested in the fabrication of the movement components.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

I've got the same rate of +9s/d but with an amplitude of 304* and a beat error of 0.2ms on my new GMT2 from new AR+F movement VR3285 72hours. So you got a little sharper movement on your DD3285 "Pepsi" GMT, or which amplitude is better? the one closer to 0* or further away from 0*? I read somewhere that Rolex do not like more than 280° - I think it was because, if you run at higher amplitudes, you get a bigger drop after 24 hours. At 270-280° the idea is that a lower drop over 24 hours gives better timekeeping.

My gen sub has 240 dial up. i dont give a wet fart. its accurate and PR works

 

[CTime]

Will there be any comparison dd vs. new vr from @CTime in the future?

Saw some reviews and the accuracy and power reserve is indeed really good 68-72h.
I am more interested in the fabrication of the movement components.

Could be

 

[Hammerhammer]

JUST NO.

 

[Who Knows]

Amazing comparison, thanks for sharing!

 

[Faj]

How things are going?

Basically I always buy watches with very basic complications, mostly even with no date, as I want to spare me the trouble messing around, or beg my Rep watchmaker to fiddle with another rep.

My ARF Explorer needed some repairs and the problem is still not solved.

I do have an eye on the GMT but am worried. Is it worth to face the risks now?

How are the V3 versions (clean) are different?

 

[981as]

How often do the DD and SH movements need servicing/oiling. Thanks

 

[aHero]

How often do the DD and SH movements need servicing/oiling. Thanks

Different philosophies. Some service immediately upon receipt. Others wait until something is wrong. Others wait for normal intervals ranging from 3-5 years.

 

[dogwood]

How often do the DD and SH movements need servicing/oiling. Thanks

I suggest within the first 12-18 months if it’s a watch you plan on keeping and it has a movement that has a non-zero chance of being hard to get parts for in the future (ie if it’s powered by an eta clone 2824 or similar, there will be no problem getting parts in the future, but an sh3285 may not have spare parts available in 5-10 years). Getting a watch serviced early ensures there’s oil where it’s supposed to be to minimize wear on the moving parts. Then I’d say service a movement ever 5-10 years after that. Every 5 years if it’s a daily driver or if you keep it on a winder — the motion of parts rubbing and sliding will break down the oils. Every 10 years if the watch is a drawer queen — over a long enough period the oils and grease will oxidize and need to be cleaned away and new lubrication applied.

 

[surREPtitious]

Dude, this thread is awesome.

 

[Countess Koscowicz]

Superb.

Great to see how far these movements have progressed since I last checked in here!

 

[Casing23]

Clean with its dd uses click in dials - which is proper solution for ref 126710 and works interchangeably with gen dials, while ARF with sh still uses two feet dials used in previous reference 116710, no easy dial swap if interested

 

[CTbeforeLP]

Clean with its dd uses click in dials - which is proper solution for ref 126710 and works interchangeably with gen dials, while ARF with sh still uses two feet dials used in previous reference 116710, no easy dial swap if interested

Yeah. But the "press on" dials from CF and Gen fit the ARF with SH movement no problem. But not reverse.

 

[KJ2020]

Dials with feet can have the feet clipped, stumps sanded smooth and then be epoxied onto the date plate. Three or four 2 - 3mm blobs of 30 min slow cure epoxy placed in open spaces on the date plate will anchor a dial quite well.

It's a little more work to undo but not difficult. The cured epoxy will scrape away easily and cleanly with a razor blade, then just wipe or rinse with alcohol. Ofc the date plate should be removed and DW separated before scraping and cleaning so glue shards don't get into the movement.

This works fine when the need arises. I've done it probably 8 - 10 times and prefer it to dial dots as it adds no real extra spacing and the dial doesn't shift around at all. Just make sure you get the dial centered and aligned, haha. Otherwise you get to do it again.