New PPF 5712 with PP240 Super Clone.....

[hahamen]

Anyone ordered during June but haven’t got their QC yet? I ordered mine at June 20 but haven’t receive any QC yet

 

[man5on90]

Anyone ordered during June but haven’t got their QC yet? I ordered mine at June 20 but haven’t receive any QC yet

Where did you order from?

 

[IchBinzTim]

Mini-review

I got mine during the week. I'm pretty impressed with the proportions of the case. Diameter is spot on. The thickness is really nice. I measure it to around 8,54mm without crystal, and a little more with crystal. Patek says 8.52mm, although i dont know if that is with or without crystal. Perhaps @Heisenberg , you could measure thickness of your gen without crystal?

Diameter:

Thickness with crystal (crystal-to-crystal):

Thickness without crystal (caseback to bezel):


Overall quality is great and finishing is better than any other non-modded rep i've experienced so far. Also it keeps time fine and power reserve is good. The micro-rotor is capable of keeping the power reserve up. When I first wore it a few days ago i wound it manually to 80% (i give my automatic gens 20-25 winds too).

Regarding the moon phase disc, the color is totally off. There's no excuse. There are no version of a 5712 with that color. It's too light. I have a incoming gen disc, which will be installed at some point.

The dial color is fine IMO. It's not purple. In yellow indoor light it can have a slight purple hue, but not at all like the early 5711 PPF's. It's mostly dark blue and greyish.



The dial is too "dull", it's not lively enough like gen dials. The sunburst and black-blue gradient is too dull. But anything else can't be expected of a rep dial. I hope Buff will release a dial for this.

Very interesting, thank you for all of that. Now, it's probably been mentioned before but the differences between that one and gen are bezel finishing / the brushed part being too much and the polished part too little, different shaped endlinks, moonphase wheel color & printing and the patek phillipe geneve printing being a bit odd. havent taken a super close look at he movement yet but have i missed anything else important?

 

[RonP]

Anyone ordered during June but haven’t got their QC yet? I ordered mine at June 20 but haven’t receive any QC yet

I hope you ordered from jtime.io and not another site which claims to by jtime.

I stupidly ordered from a scam site a year ago and lost a lot of money.

 

[grillbrill]

....the brushed part being too much and the polished part too little...

I'm not sure, has it been confirmed for 5712 v2?

 

[fpi87]

Very interesting, thank you for all of that. Now, it's probably been mentioned before but the differences between that one and gen are bezel finishing / the brushed part being too much and the polished part too little, different shaped endlinks, moonphase wheel color & printing and the patek phillipe geneve printing being a bit odd. havent taken a super close look at he movement yet but have i missed anything else important?

Personally, I still think the dial is not GEN like, V1 dial color depth was much much better

 

[hahamen]

Where did you order from?

I ordered from Jtime, definitely the real Jtime as I bought from him several times already

 

[jm_brc_7057]

Very interesting, thank you for all of that. Now, it's probably been mentioned before but the differences between that one and gen are bezel finishing / the brushed part being too much and the polished part too little, different shaped endlinks, moonphase wheel color & printing and the patek phillipe geneve printing being a bit odd. havent taken a super close look at he movement yet but have i missed anything else important?

@grillbrill is right. To me the bezel looks fine. There is no bevelling problem. And the bezel (brushed part) is thin.

Endlinks: Again. In my opinion they look just fine. Are you confusing it with something you read about the 5711 3KF?

Logo print: I think the print is fine. It was established earlier in this thread that there indeed are gens with this logo variation. Where there is a slight gap in G ENEVE.
Here is a gen example (watch from 2012), for your convenience:

An additional comment regarding this is; I'm holding it up close. And i had to use my loupe to see this gap.

Moonphase; correct.

If you missed other things?
- Well the dial markers aren’t rounded. Other than the lack of depth and liveliness of the dial that has already been mentioned.

- the bevelling on the lugs could’ve been better

- the movement is another story. It doesn’t have the finishing you have in a PP. Very surprising (!). It is what it is. It’s a fully functional clone movement that is nice to look at. Just not with a loupe. Personally I don’t see it as a problem.

But all in all - for me personally - this watch is amazing. It a fully functional complicated Nautilus with near perfect proportions and clone movement. It has a lot of positive things.

The movement isn’t gonna bring down the killer. It’s the moon phase disc that’s is the only obvious flaw. The dial lacking depth and liveliness is second. The markers not being rounded adds to this. Because anyone who has a Nautilus will feel the dial is off when seeing it.

It’s not gonna be the movement, the tenths of millimetre in thickness, the printing of the logo, the bevelling on the lugs or other tiny details we can get obsessive about.

Enjoyable rep!

 

[cartierjoe]

I hope you ordered from jtime.io and not another site which claims to by jtime.

I stupidly ordered from a scam site a year ago and lost a lot of money.

Did you pay by crypto? or credit card?

 

[Kcnminus]

@grillbrill is right. To me the bezel looks fine. There is no bevelling problem. And the bezel (brushed part) is thin.

Endlinks: Again. In my opinion they look just fine. Are you confusing it with something you read about the 5711 3KF?

Logo print: I think the print is fine. It was established earlier in this thread that there indeed are gens with this logo variation. Where there is a slight gap in G ENEVE.
Here is a gen example, for your convenience:



Moonphase; correct.

If you missed other things?
- Well the dial markers aren’t rounded. Other than the lack of depth and liveliness of the dial that has already been mentioned.

- the bevelling on the lugs could’ve been better

- the movement is another story. It doesn’t have the finishing you have in a PP. Very surprising (!). It is what it is. It’s a fully functional clone movement that is nice to look at. Just not with a loupe. Personally I don’t see it as a problem.

But all in all - for me personally - this watch is amazing. It a fully functional complicated Nautilus with near perfect proportions and clone movement. It has a lot of positive things.

The movement isn’t gonna bring down the killer. It’s the moon phase disc that’s is the only obvious flaw. The dial lacking depth and liveliness is second. The markers not being rounded adds to this. Because anyone who has a Nautilus will feel it’s off when seeing this.

It’s not gonna be the movement, the tenths of millimetre in thickness, the printing of the logo, the bevelling on the lugs or other tiny details we can get obsessive about.

Enjoyable rep!

Thanks for those additional callouts and your thoughts at the end. This is the first watch I would be really happy with in all its imperfections. I am in no way willing to shell out $130k+ for a watch in this lifetime or the next and will very much enjoy wearing this rep around. The VFM here is absolutely insane, given a working PR, small seconds, date, and moonphase for under $1k.

 

[jm_brc_7057]

Thanks for those additional callouts and your thoughts at the end. This is the first watch I would be really happy with in all its imperfections. I am in no way willing to shell out $130k+ for a watch in this lifetime or the next and will very much enjoy wearing this rep around. The VFM here is absolutely insane, given a working PR, small seconds, date, and moonphase for under $1k.

Thanks buddy. I am very satisfied with it and i think i will get some mods done to it.

 

[hahamen]

Did you pay by crypto? or credit card?

Did you pay by crypto? or credit card?

I paid by bank transfer, I just contacted him, he said need to wait

 

[cartierjoe]

I paid by bank transfer, I just contacted him, he said need to wait

Oh I was actually asking @RonP as he said he was scammed by the wrong Jtime and lost money last year.
Because if its credit card he used he can ask his bank to reverse it.

However if its crypto or bank transfer, its irreversible.

But as you are sure its the correct guy and not a poser then all you can do is wait. Sucks, but will be worth it when it gets there.

 

[hahamen]

Oh I was actually asking @RonP as he said he was scammed by the wrong Jtime and lost money last year.
Because if its credit card he used he can ask his bank to reverse it.

However if its crypto or bank transfer, its irreversible.

But as you are sure its the correct guy and not a poser then all you can do is wait. Sucks, but will be worth it when it gets there.

Opss, didn’t notice you quoted @RonP message,
My bad

 

[IchBinzTim]

I'm not sure, has it been confirmed for 5712 v2?

i compared it with a gen and i do believe it to still be the case

 

[IchBinzTim]

@grillbrill is right. To me the bezel looks fine. There is no bevelling problem. And the bezel (brushed part) is thin.

Endlinks: Again. In my opinion they look just fine. Are you confusing it with something you read about the 5711 3KF?

Logo print: I think the print is fine. It was established earlier in this thread that there indeed are gens with this logo variation. Where there is a slight gap in G ENEVE.
Here is a gen example (watch from 2012), for your convenience:

An additional comment regarding this is; I'm holding it up close. And i had to use my loupe to see this gap.

Moonphase; correct.

If you missed other things?
- Well the dial markers aren’t rounded. Other than the lack of depth and liveliness of the dial that has already been mentioned.

- the bevelling on the lugs could’ve been better

- the movement is another story. It doesn’t have the finishing you have in a PP. Very surprising (!). It is what it is. It’s a fully functional clone movement that is nice to look at. Just not with a loupe. Personally I don’t see it as a problem.

But all in all - for me personally - this watch is amazing. It a fully functional complicated Nautilus with near perfect proportions and clone movement. It has a lot of positive things.

The movement isn’t gonna bring down the killer. It’s the moon phase disc that’s is the only obvious flaw. The dial lacking depth and liveliness is second. The markers not being rounded adds to this. Because anyone who has a Nautilus will feel the dial is off when seeing it.

It’s not gonna be the movement, the tenths of millimetre in thickness, the printing of the logo, the bevelling on the lugs or other tiny details we can get obsessive about.

Enjoyable rep!

Well maybe im tripping, i put a pic of a gen and a v2 of the same angle next to each other and switched between quickly and the beveling does look to be still incorrrect

 

[Virpag]

I ordered mine thru Puretime three months ago and now i was told its not available and asked if i want to change my order

anyone else experiencing this? I am thinking the movement production is delayed
M

 

[aHero]

I ordered mine thru Puretime three months ago and now i was told its not available and asked if i want to change my order

anyone else experiencing this? I am thinking the movement production is delayed
M

I was told by Intime that it was in stock, that Ryan specifically had some in hand, so I ordered. Now it's been 2 weeks without QC and he is asking for another 2 weeks.

 

[Picasso74]

I ve yet ordered and payed for it….Li was correct with me and told that I have to wait weeks before qc’s will be ready…so i m i peace and i ll wait

 

[hahamen]

I ve yet ordered and payed for it….Li was correct with me and told that I have to wait weeks before qc’s will be ready…so i m i peace and i ll wait

I ordered from Li since June 20...but until now nothing T_T