NEW ARF DATE JUST 36

[pompompurin]

I'm considering a franken project but I really have to ask you guys where you source these gen dials, ebay?

yes ebay or rolexforum

also, vrm (vintage rolex market) got some good stuff occasionally
http://www.vintagerolexmarket.com/

 

[vanwolff]

Any news on a future 116200 (SS) or 116233 (two-tone)?

 

[lukko]

See my post on the 11th page of other thread I'm pretty sure it's the new BP version. I bought from toro about a month ago and he said "it's newest version BP" but didn't elaborate much.

Edit:

Sorry not this thread but this one:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/rolex-day-date-i-ii-datejust-i-ii.110348/page-11

Bottom post of page 11. At first I thought maybe ARF/JF but I think now it's BP after reading around plus my crown still two dots

No, you're wrong.

This is just a standard BP V2

 

[Curt941]

I've got one on order, planning to add a gen dial and hands.

 

[pompompurin]

I've got one on order, planning to add a gen dial and hands.

probably need a gen date disc as well
the stock one looks too bold

 

[Curt941]

Yes, very much need that for sure

 

[Jyi90]

No, you're wrong.

This is just a standard BP V2

Thx I must be trippin it looks so much different from the silver one I had Maybe my silver DJ II isn't a v2

 

[Markie]

It will for sure take a gen dial?

 

[pompompurin]

It will for sure take a gen dial?

a lot of replica watches can install its equivalent gen dial; it is just a matter of cutting the genuine dial's feet or not to make the genuine dial fit onto the movement. Cutting the genuine dial's feet will automatically render the genuine dial worthless

yes, the movement inside this watch is a 3135 superclone, therefore it will take gen dial without the need to cut off its dial feet

 

[Curt941]

a lot of replica watches can install its equivalent gen dial; it is just a matter of cutting the genuine dial's feet or not to make the genuine dial fit onto the movement. Cutting the genuine dial's feet will automatically render the genuine dial worthless

yes, the movement inside this watch is a 3135 superclone, therefore it will take gen dial without the need to cut off its dial feet

Yep, I'm working under the assumption that it's like any other noon or Jfac watch that uses an sa3135/sh3135...it has gen spec dial feet positions and therefore a gen dial will drop right on. No reason to think otherwise.

Has anyone gotten one yet?

 

[Blueinc]

Yep, I'm working under the assumption that it's like any other noon or Jfac watch that uses an sa3135/sh3135...it has gen spec dial feet positions and therefore a gen dial will drop right on. No reason to think otherwise.

Has anyone gotten one yet?

QC pics from my recent ARF datejust 36mm ss from intime.

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[1680redsub]

I'm about pull the trigger on the same watch. Only reason why I'm sitting on the fence is the dial color.
Please let us know how you like it when you receive it.

Thank you,


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[Jyi90]

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No, you're wrong.

This is just a standard BP V2

Actually tbh after doing another double take I think you're wrong on that. Look at the font on the 'just' part of Datejust and compare with the one on Toro's site,'looks similar.

Plus again my silver BP v2 has different lume, the just looks different, and silver one doesn't have AR coating.
Unless my silver is a v1 but the LEC at 6 is nearly invisible on both my white & silver

http://www.tb-688.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2629

 

[harmeetjollyy]

It is a milestone imo, amazing that it comes with an SH 3135 because that will make it easy to fit on genuine hands, datewheel and dial.

Caseshape, lugs, endlinks all look very good (although there are not many pictures showing the endlinks and lugs) also the coronet looks quite good (but hard to say if it has the 3D effect of gen). Bezel looks good but not amazing, to be honest you cant expect them to get it very close to genuine because whitegold has a more prominent shine than steel and it is quite a delicate part to produce.

Crown looks very good too but on the genuine it is slightly recessed into the case, so the case looks just a little different:

Rep ARF/JF Factory 116234

Genuine 116234 Crown recessed

Also lume markers are a bit closer to the railroadtrack on gen plus they look a little bit more refined

Rep

Gen

Also this looks more like a white dial to me..

These flaws are very minor though in comparison to the 6 digit reps we are used to!


Maybe this is the DJ we have all been waiting for? I really hope not because I would have to franken it, making this my 3rd or even 4th franken project..

How good does the bezel shine?


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[Mike116]

I thought the the older Rolex models were built from 316 stainless and they started using 904 in later models? Ive seen the 904 against the 316 but honestly cant see the difference

 

[gamba66]

How good does the bezel shine?


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I never saw the watch in reality so I can't make a definitive statement on that.

But I can make a speculative statement: Most likely it won't be rhodium coated (highly unlikely actually!, they would definitely mention this if this would be the case)

It is probably just a low-polished stainless steel bezel and even when its really polished it is no comparison to a rhodium-coated or whitegold bezel. Why? Because rhodium and/or whitegold reflects the light very differently than steel can. There is no way to emulate this because whitegold/rhodium has different physical properties than steel and reflects way more when polished.

Actually I just read the description from puretime:

Bezel Fluted stainless steel bezel, same shape as genuine

On all the replica fluted bezels I have seen first-hand all of them weren't even high-polished, usually finishing in terms of brushing and polishing is lacking on reps and should be refinished by someone like @Johnny Depp . (there are different grades to a polish)

 

[Karlus]

I never saw the watch in reality so I can't make a definitive statement on that.

But I can make a speculative statement: Most likely it won't be rhodium coated (highly unlikely actually!, they would definitely mention this if this would be the case)

It is probably just a low-polished stainless steel bezel and even when its really polished it is no comparison to a rhodium-coated or whitegold bezel. Why? Because rhodium and/or whitegold reflects the light very differently than steel can. There is no way to emulate this because whitegold/rhodium has different physical properties than steel and reflects way more when polished.

Actually I just read the description from puretime:



On all the replica fluted bezels I have seen first-hand all of them weren't even high-polished, usually finishing in terms of brushing and polishing is lacking on reps and should be refinished by someone like @Johnny Depp . (there are different grades to a polish)

Or replace the bezel with a gen white gold one. Problem is finding the modern bezel as its a diff diameter than older ones.

 

[gamba66]

Or replace the bezel with a gen white gold one. Problem is finding the modern bezel as its a diff diameter than older ones.

Its always the best option to go for genuine.

But there are several factors speaking against that:

1. The correct genuine 6-digit whitegold fluted bezel will most likely cost more than the entire watch (ballpark of 400 to 800 USD) plus it is very rare
2. The genuine 6 digit bezel has an additional gasket which is often not supplied with the bezel and may not compatible with the rep case (this is definitely the case for the Datejust 2 bezel on a bp v2 watch, people have used hotglue because they found no fitting gasket)
3. You have to get the period-correct 6-digit bezel because the 5 and even more so the 4-digit bezels are not as wide and tall as the 6-digit one. It would look very wrong to have a period incorrect bezel on the fatter 6digit case; proportions wouldn't be correct anymore.

The most cost-effective method would be to buy a smooth genuine bezel instead (around 50 to 200 USD max) or, if it will ever released, buy the ARF rep with a smooth bezel. Most likely the rep smooth bezel will be accurate enough so that frankening the bezel won't be necessary, shine will be nearly indistinguishable between a polished smooth rep bezel vs genuine.

There is really no way to get a gen-spec fluted bezel without buying the genuine unfortunately

 

[Karlus]

Its always the best option to go for genuine.

But there are several factors speaking against that:

1. The correct genuine 6-digit whitegold fluted bezel will most likely cost more than the entire watch (ballpark of 400 to 800 USD) plus it is very rare
2. The genuine 6 digit bezel has an additional gasket which is often not supplied with the bezel and may not compatible with the rep case (this is definitely the case for the Datejust 2 bezel on a bp v2 watch, people have used hotglue because they found no fitting gasket)
3. You have to get the period-correct 6-digit bezel because the 5 and even more so the 4-digit bezels are not as wide and tall as the 6-digit one. It would look very wrong to have a period incorrect bezel on the fatter 6digit case; proportions wouldn't be correct anymore.

The most cost-effective method would be to buy a smooth genuine bezel instead (around 50 to 200 USD max) or, if it will ever released, buy the ARF rep with a smooth bezel. Most likely the rep smooth bezel will be accurate enough so that frankening the bezel won't be necessary, shine will be nearly indistinguishable between a polished smooth rep bezel vs genuine.

There is really no way to get a gen-spec fluted bezel without buying the genuine unfortunately

The bottom is the correct bezel. Agree on the gasket, will be interesting to see if someone gets this ARF and what bezel diameter will fit.

I also would love to see the two tone and daydate that is sure to follow. Ive already bought dials for these watches that are not for sale, LOL

 

[lukko]

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Actually tbh after doing another double take I think you're wrong on that. Look at the font on the 'just' part of Datejust and compare with the one on Toro's site,'looks similar.

Plus again my silver BP v2 has different lume, the just looks different, and silver one doesn't have AR coating.
Unless my silver is a v1 but the LEC at 6 is nearly invisible on both my white & silver

http://www.tb-688.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=2629

That's the last V2.

Just mixed parts during assembling. That's common with BP DJ