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NEW ARF DATE JUST 36

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just a note, you can't just use any cheap ebay Rolex datejust dial to franken this watch because it won't be period correct and it will look off

period-correct 116200/116234 dials are still quite rare and expensive on ebay (i.e. the roman dials or the baton lume dials are the only dials that are period correct for this model)

'T SWISS MADE T' / "T SWISS T" dials are not appropriate for this model as this model was released from 2005 and onward

gen 116200 series from the early first few years (2005) do not have rehaut engraving as well so you can sand the rehaut off
 
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Well you guy haven't see new upgraded BP yet [emoji28][emoji28]
I'm excited to see members here dising ARF datejust after BP release [emoji23]


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What can you tell us about the new BP? And are they updating the DJII, DJ41, or DJ 36?
 

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Well you guy haven't see new upgraded BP yet [emoji28][emoji28]
I'm excited to see members here dising ARF datejust after BP release [emoji23]


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sorry to disappoint your expectations about BP. I'm a BP fan for certain types of watches. This is the first date just realese from JF/ARF and it's many miles better than an updated BP datejust.



Well it's definitely SH3135 [emoji23][emoji23]


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i've already report this, it is a JF/ARF watch
 

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sorry to disappoint your expectations about BP. I'm a BP fan for certain types of watches. This is the first date just realese from JF/ARF and it's many miles better than an updated BP datejust.










i've already report this, it is a JF/ARF watch




It's not my expectation , it's about something new on the way
Will see it soon [emoji41]
 

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there is a lot of DJ 36mm dial on Ebay. how to be sure it's a gen one ? the engraving at the back is enough or is there any other tips ?
Generally speaking rep dials suck, amost always have the wrong feet position, a very bad non-3d coronet, funky looking lume sticks etc. there arent any good aftermarket dials so itd quite easy to spot the fakes with some experience
just a note, you can't just use any cheap ebay Rolex datejust dial to franken this watch because it won't be period correct and it will look off

period-correct 116200/116234 dials are still quite rare and expensive on ebay (i.e. the roman dials or the baton lume dials are the only dials that are period correct for this model)

'T SWISS MADE T' / "T SWISS T" dials are not appropriate for this model as this model was released from 2005 and onward

gen 116200 series from the early first few years (2005) do not have rehaut engraving as well so you can sand the rehaut off
didnt the early 6 digit dj's come with the baton sticks? I thought they are period correct (atleast for an early build) when they have "swiss made" writing and luminova dots?

Those swiss made dials arent that expensive.

Also there are many genuine 6 digit daydates and datejusts on instagram with tswissmadet replacement dials, so it wouldnt be totally unrealistic to have an non period-correct dial
 

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It's not my expectation , it's about something new on the way
Will see it soon [emoji41]


Okay, I'm curious. But i had purchase BP watches for many years now and there are many flaws and lower details and problems in BP watches. (Just see the simple thing like the springbars that are very poor and cheap on all BP watches ... the incomplete or incorrect SEL, incorrectly drilled lugs, dirt under the crystal, jbuilee bracelets that lose the crown on the claps because it is glued ... etc etc ...)

This Datejust ARF / JF qualitatively is 100 times superior to a BP.
 

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Okay, I'm curious. But i had purchase BP watches for many years now and there are many flaws and lower details and problems in BP watches. (Just see the simple thing like the springbars that are very poor and cheap on all BP watches ... the incomplete or incorrect SEL, incorrectly drilled lugs, dirt under the crystal, jbuilee bracelets that lose the crown on the claps because it is glued ... etc etc ...)

This Datejust ARF / JF qualitatively is 100 times superior to a BP.

Pmd you buddy


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Generally speaking rep dials suck, amost always have the wrong feet position, a very bad non-3d coronet, funky looking lume sticks etc. there arent any good aftermarket dials so itd quite easy to spot the fakes with some experience

didnt the early 6 digit dj's come with the baton sticks? I thought they are period correct (atleast for an early build) when they have "swiss made" writing and luminova dots?

Those swiss made dials arent that expensive.

Also there are many genuine 6 digit daydates and datejusts on instagram with tswissmadet replacement dials, so it wouldnt be totally unrealistic to have an non period-correct dial


If you google image search datejust 2005, you can't find any normal baton with lume dot dial on the 1162xx. Also, even the normal baton Swiss Made dial is relatively much more expensive than t Swiss t or t Swiss Made t. I also believe I have seen early Rolex catalogues without such dial options from factory
 

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Okay, I'm curious. But i had purchase BP watches for many years now and there are many flaws and lower details and problems in BP watches. (Just see the simple thing like the springbars that are very poor and cheap on all BP watches ... the incomplete or incorrect SEL, incorrectly drilled lugs, dirt under the crystal, jbuilee bracelets that lose the crown on the claps because it is glued ... etc etc ...)

This Datejust ARF / JF qualitatively is 100 times superior to a BP.

I agree with you.
I think this time it only needs a gen datewheel and is really perfect.
 

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If you google image search datejust 2005, you can't find any normal baton with lume dot dial on the 1162xx. Also, even the normal baton Swiss Made dial is relatively much more expensive than t Swiss t or t Swiss Made t. I also believe I have seen early Rolex catalogues without such dial options from factory

I thought I had seen one in one of my google searches before. I think you are correct with your statement! It was probably just a 116xx with a replaced dial.

Still I would say the swiss made baton dials can be had for 200 to 400 which is reasonable imo.

To be honest Im not a huge fan of the 6 digit rolex anyways I would consider this as a franken due to the limited availability of 5 digit reps plus gen parts compability ootb. 5 digit is the golden middle for me though.

Still I am kind of on the edge because of the SH 3135, it may be a nice 3135 clone movement but it seems only very few people service these and even less have spare parts for them, besides gen spare parts being extremely expensive.

I know many people who still own MBW, WM9 or TWBest watches with swiss etas that they have owned for over 10 years without service (and should problems occur it will be an inexpensive fix most likely). SH 3135 will be hard to find someone who fixed them outside this small circle of the forums. (Who knows who is still active in 5,10 years down the line). Seems hard to me to justify spending close to gen money on a sh 3135 franken build.
 

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Hope they come out with cheaper movement options and smooth bezel..


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sorry to disappoint your expectations about BP. I'm a BP fan for certain types of watches. This is the first date just realese from JF/ARF and it's many miles better than an updated BP datejust.





i've already report this, it is a JF/ARF watch
Worth a buy you rekon?

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Now this really looks promising. I'm glad I waited a bit for a change :)
 

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Okay, I'm curious. But i had purchase BP watches for many years now and there are many flaws and lower details and problems in BP watches. (Just see the simple thing like the springbars that are very poor and cheap on all BP watches ... the incomplete or incorrect SEL, incorrectly drilled lugs, dirt under the crystal, jbuilee bracelets that lose the crown on the claps because it is glued ... etc etc ...)

This Datejust ARF / JF qualitatively is 100 times superior to a BP.

See my post on the 11th page of other thread I'm pretty sure it's the new BP version. I bought from toro about a month ago and he said "it's newest version BP" but didn't elaborate much.

Edit:

Sorry not this thread but this one:

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/rolex-day-date-i-ii-datejust-i-ii.110348/page-11

Bottom post of page 11. At first I thought maybe ARF/JF but I think now it's BP after reading around plus my crown still two dots
 

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I thought I had seen one in one of my google searches before. I think you are correct with your statement! It was probably just a 116xx with a replaced dial.

Still I would say the swiss made baton dials can be had for 200 to 400 which is reasonable imo.

To be honest Im not a huge fan of the 6 digit rolex anyways I would consider this as a franken due to the limited availability of 5 digit reps plus gen parts compability ootb. 5 digit is the golden middle for me though.

Still I am kind of on the edge because of the SH 3135, it may be a nice 3135 clone movement but it seems only very few people service these and even less have spare parts for them, besides gen spare parts being extremely expensive.

I know many people who still own MBW, WM9 or TWBest watches with swiss etas that they have owned for over 10 years without service (and should problems occur it will be an inexpensive fix most likely). SH 3135 will be hard to find someone who fixed them outside this small circle of the forums. (Who knows who is still active in 5,10 years down the line). Seems hard to me to justify spending close to gen money on a sh 3135 franken build.

$200 to 400 can also buy comparably more expensive gen model dial i.e. the 16610 or 116610 sub dials (if you are lucky). So based on that I find datejust dial at that price range expensive and plus I am usually very very economical and OCD when doing franken build :p

after I complete my 16610 vintage build, I will probably buy this ARF 116234 and franken it with a gen black dial and gen date disc. But for the 6 digits 36mm datejust, i definitely prefer the 116200 (smooth bezel with oyster bracelet combo) more than the 116234. Datejust with black dial is always so pretty

i love 5 digits datejust more but damn this is the best 36mm datejust for now
 

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$200 to 400 can also buy comparably more expensive gen model dial i.e. the 16610 or 116610 sub dials (if you are lucky). So based on that I find datejust dial at that price range expensive and plus I am usually very very economical and OCD when doing franken build :p

after I complete my 16610 vintage build, I will probably buy this ARF 116234 and franken it with a gen black dial and gen date disc. But for the 6 digits 36mm datejust, i definitely prefer the 116200 (smooth bezel with oyster bracelet combo) more than the 116234. Datejust with black dial is always so pretty

i love 5 digits datejust more but damn this is the best 36mm datejust for now
I am also economical for my franken builds but maybe I am too preconceived from the daydate dial prices because they are on average considerably higher.

I am looking forward to that, black dial will look great! Will you choose a "swiss made" baton dial or the newer lume sticks? I like the batons so much more, the 3d effect is more apparent and the lume sticks look too sporty for a dj or dd imo.

The 116200 shouldnt be a difficult built as the gen smooth bezels arent that expensive (atleast the 5 digit ones so I am assuming the 6 digit wont be either). After the 5-digit dj's for me all the fluted bezels look to fat and stretched anyways (even more so on reps) so I get your thinking why you prefer smooth.

ARF will definitely be a great base for a franken build but I will still wait for a few reviews before biting the bullet. And while SH 3135 is absolutely great for the gen part compability ootb I am still skeptical considering its reliability in the long run. I just know how much of a headache a faulty movement can be!
 

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I am also economical for my franken builds but maybe I am too preconceived from the daydate dial prices because they are on average considerably higher.

I am looking forward to that, black dial will look great! Will you choose a "swiss made" baton dial or the newer lume sticks? I like the batons so much more, the 3d effect is more apparent and the lume sticks look too sporty for a dj or dd imo.

The 116200 shouldnt be a difficult built as the gen smooth bezels arent that expensive (atleast the 5 digit ones so I am assuming the 6 digit wont be either). After the 5-digit dj's for me all the fluted bezels look to fat and stretched anyways (even more so on reps) so I get your thinking why you prefer smooth.

ARF will definitely be a great base for a franken build but I will still wait for a few reviews before biting the bullet. And while SH 3135 is absolutely great for the gen part compability ootb I am still skeptical considering its reliability in the long run. I just know how much of a headache a faulty movement can be!

i hate 3135 superclone because I am so used to the reliability of ETA movements, but I have no choice because I really hate cutting the feet off a genuine Rolex dial hah
i will definitely use the newer baton lume markers - the lume effect on these newer dials are prettier as well
i just calculated the cost of the genuine dial - the cost of a genuine date disc + genuine dial will cost nearly the same amount as the watch

it will be an expensive but straightforward franken at least!
 

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I'm considering a franken project but I really have to ask you guys where you source these gen dials, ebay?