New AP 26240 with 4401 Super Clone movement is coming

[elusive1]

I vote you should keep it! It looks great on you.

 

[munichman]

It looks great on you.

It would looker better on my wrist though.

 

[Slanglican]

You’ve been given the same answer a thousand times across multiple threads and since none of them are apparently what you’re looking for, here’s mine:

Your watch is a paperweight at best, and a dangerous ticking time-bomb at worst. There’s no salvaging it. Send it to me and I’ll take it off your hands. You’re welcome.

I am looking for a consensus. Something that gets me closer to certainty. Nothing before this me asking provided me any certainty or empirical verification.

….so

 

[Slanglican]

I am looking for a consensus. Something that gets me closer to certainty. Nothing before this me asking provided me any certainty or empirical verification.

….so

Bro, when I asked this question, I had two responses in my other thread, neither which provided me with an answer that explains what I want to know.
I’m sure there are some AP buffs who have that answer and would be happy to explain it as opposed to commenting redundant hyperbole that provides no positive contribution to the conversation except for your own amusement or pleasure of acting like a douche over, what, to me is/was a reasonable question looking for a reasonable answer.

I even originally stated that I am ignorant about AP movements and haven’t been able to RESEARCH And find the answer…

It looks like I got a couple more responses in the thread I started, hopefully there’s more constructive answers there than in this thread.

 

[memox]

Bro, when I asked this question, I had two responses in my other thread, neither which provided me with an answer that explains what I want to know.
I’m sure there are some AP buffs who have that answer and would be happy to explain it as opposed to commenting redundant hyperbole that provides no positive contribution to the conversation except for your own amusement or pleasure of acting like a douche over, what, to me is/was a reasonable question looking for a reasonable answer.

I even originally stated that I am ignorant about AP movements and haven’t been able to RESEARCH And find the answer…

It looks like I got a couple more responses in the thread I started, hopefully there’s more constructive answers there than in this thread.

I dont know what answer you are looking for while asking the same question several times.

Several people have stated winding on this watch is very smooth and recommended letting it die then wind on this thread and your seperate thread.

 

[Slanglican]

I dont know what answer you are looking for while asking the same question several times.

Several people have stated winding on this watch is very smooth and recommended letting it die then wind on this thread and your seperate thread.

Maybe I’m not getting the notifications as you guys are or not seeing them or something.

It’s def. probably my fault for not phrasing the question correctly…

I’m looking for a technical answer I guess.

This has been answered multiple times now. The 4401 and the 4302 clone movements are both silent and nonresistant when winding.

If you are unsure whether the winding mechanism of your watch is working, just let it run down and then try to wind it - simple as that

this is the first I’m seeing of a majority of the responses, but the re-asking definitely helped get more clarification even if it offended the delicate sensibilities of one or two.

I don’t log in everyday.

I opened a thread, I’d like/need to retitle it or something and formulate the question better…

Sounds like you guys have established that the mechanism isnt “broken.”
Many thanks…
I’m Curious as to, mechanically, what is different about the AP cloned movements that make the manual wind so ??? Different? Non-scratchy sounding? So, non-friction-sounding basically as one person put it “inaudible” and kinda no -resistant..

I mean, if you go wind a Daytona clone 4130 or a 7753, or a genuine breitling B01, or any non chronograph movement, it sounds more “scratchy” than clicks” as it has more than just the little skinny spring thing sitting against whatever the gear/wheel is called that’s moving when you wind the watch…



So, the “type” Of answer I was after — my fault for the poor phrasing —:
“The AP movement only has one wheel/gear turning relative to x and because of that interaction it causes y. Together it produces the e(a)ffect you’re experiencing.”
“Whereas a 7753 or even a 4130 uses so and so many components and when they interact it causes such and such which produces they scratchy kkickciiikciickck noise when turning the crown…”


That if I let the power run out and twist the crown and it starts up means it works. Is correct, but it’s like saying it’s an Apple cause it grows on a tree. Or the grass is wet because it’s raining.

it’s not overtly circular reasoning but Kirk, yeah, no shit.

 

[Virpag]

Maybe I’m not getting the notifications as you guys are or not seeing them or something.

It’s def. probably my fault for not phrasing the question correctly…

I’m looking for a technical answer I guess.

this is the first I’m seeing of a majority of the responses, but the re-asking definitely helped get more clarification even if it offended the delicate sensibilities of one or two.

I don’t log in everyday.

I opened a thread, I’d like/need to retitle it or something and formulate the question better…

Sounds like you guys have established that the mechanism isnt “broken.”
Many thanks…
I’m Curious as to, mechanically, what is different about the AP cloned movements that make the manual wind so ??? Different? Non-scratchy sounding? So, non-friction-sounding basically as one person put it “inaudible” and kinda no -resistant..

I mean, if you go wind a Daytona clone 4130 or a 7753, or a genuine breitling B01, or any non chronograph movement, it sounds more “scratchy” than clicks” as it has more than just the little skinny spring thing sitting against whatever the gear/wheel is called that’s moving when you wind the watch…



So, the “type” Of answer I was after — my fault for the poor phrasing —:
“The AP movement only has one wheel/gear turning relative to x and because of that interaction it causes y. Together it produces the e(a)ffect you’re experiencing.”
“Whereas a 7753 or even a 4130 uses so and so many components and when they interact it causes such and such which produces they scratchy kkickciiikciickck noise when turning the crown…”


That if I let the power run out and twist the crown and it starts up means it works. Is correct, but it’s like saying it’s an Apple cause it grows on a tree. Or the grass is wet because it’s raining.

it’s not overtly circular reasoning but Kirk, yeah, no shit.

You need to just get a quartz watch that will save you all the stress this is not that complicated a lot of the new clone movevents run much smoother than the older releases from my experience but I do not care as long as it runs as intended

 

[CrazyOCD.RepWearer]

Maybe I’m not getting the notifications as you guys are or not seeing them or something.

It’s def. probably my fault for not phrasing the question correctly…

I’m looking for a technical answer I guess.

this is the first I’m seeing of a majority of the responses, but the re-asking definitely helped get more clarification even if it offended the delicate sensibilities of one or two.

I don’t log in everyday.

I opened a thread, I’d like/need to retitle it or something and formulate the question better…

Sounds like you guys have established that the mechanism isnt “broken.”
Many thanks…
I’m Curious as to, mechanically, what is different about the AP cloned movements that make the manual wind so ??? Different? Non-scratchy sounding? So, non-friction-sounding basically as one person put it “inaudible” and kinda no -resistant..

I mean, if you go wind a Daytona clone 4130 or a 7753, or a genuine breitling B01, or any non chronograph movement, it sounds more “scratchy” than clicks” as it has more than just the little skinny spring thing sitting against whatever the gear/wheel is called that’s moving when you wind the watch…



So, the “type” Of answer I was after — my fault for the poor phrasing —:
“The AP movement only has one wheel/gear turning relative to x and because of that interaction it causes y. Together it produces the e(a)ffect you’re experiencing.”
“Whereas a 7753 or even a 4130 uses so and so many components and when they interact it causes such and such which produces they scratchy kkickciiikciickck noise when turning the crown…”


That if I let the power run out and twist the crown and it starts up means it works. Is correct, but it’s like saying it’s an Apple cause it grows on a tree. Or the grass is wet because it’s raining.

it’s not overtly circular reasoning but Kirk, yeah, no shit.

I strongly suspect it is based on the design of the movements, gear cuts, how precise/true/polished the gears are, and then whether they're clean/lubed or dry/gritty and if even the crown gasket is rubbing. I think the level of response you're looking for might be reserved for watchmakers and maybe those who service watches and practice it to a meticulous degree.

I believe the vast majority of watch wearers will be blissfully ignorant of these details. We wait for the teardowns and unbiased, informed-opinions of these wonderfully OCD resources to our community.

The clicking when turning the crown in winding position will be the ratchet wheel click that prevents the mainspring from unwinding when you release the crown.

 

[memox]

Maybe I’m not getting the notifications as you guys are or not seeing them or something.

It’s def. probably my fault for not phrasing the question correctly…

I’m looking for a technical answer I guess.

this is the first I’m seeing of a majority of the responses, but the re-asking definitely helped get more clarification even if it offended the delicate sensibilities of one or two.

I don’t log in everyday.

I opened a thread, I’d like/need to retitle it or something and formulate the question better…

Sounds like you guys have established that the mechanism isnt “broken.”
Many thanks…
I’m Curious as to, mechanically, what is different about the AP cloned movements that make the manual wind so ??? Different? Non-scratchy sounding? So, non-friction-sounding basically as one person put it “inaudible” and kinda no -resistant..

I mean, if you go wind a Daytona clone 4130 or a 7753, or a genuine breitling B01, or any non chronograph movement, it sounds more “scratchy” than clicks” as it has more than just the little skinny spring thing sitting against whatever the gear/wheel is called that’s moving when you wind the watch…



So, the “type” Of answer I was after — my fault for the poor phrasing —:
“The AP movement only has one wheel/gear turning relative to x and because of that interaction it causes y. Together it produces the e(a)ffect you’re experiencing.”
“Whereas a 7753 or even a 4130 uses so and so many components and when they interact it causes such and such which produces they scratchy kkickciiikciickck noise when turning the crown…”


That if I let the power run out and twist the crown and it starts up means it works. Is correct, but it’s like saying it’s an Apple cause it grows on a tree. Or the grass is wet because it’s raining.

it’s not overtly circular reasoning but Kirk, yeah, no shit.

I think you should first try the suggested method to ensure it really isnt just a faulty movement?

 

[mgberns]

anyone leave the chrono running during full use of the watch? i kept the chrono running for two days and the large chrono hand and seconds hand aren't synchronized. good power reserve on this movement for sure though.

 

[SOLEX]

Yesterday this one arrived. What a beauty!! Runs like a champ and just such a well build watch. Took it to the patio for some pictures and now contemplating whether to keep it or sell it (i am in to thin watches but had to see this one in person)..

want to swap me for a XF 15202 lol

 

[CutePinkKitty]

anyone leave the chrono running during full use of the watch? i kept the chrono running for two days and the large chrono hand and seconds hand aren't synchronized. good power reserve on this movement for sure though.

Noooooo, you don't want to do that. ESPECIALLY on an AP. AP = dinky.

I don't even do this on my Daytona.