Yeah from memory he was in Slovenia or somewhere like that. Not sure about CONUS sorry. Surely someone can help. Maybe check out the modding subforum. Actually this thread had some mods done CONUS to vintagise a moonwatch: https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...2-Vintage-Omega-Speedmaster-2998-Build-Thread
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Looking for a speedmaster moonwatch? Info inside!
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daloatf
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What exactly are the tells for the speedmaster numbered edition 2013.
http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=37_142&product_id=1344
I know people talk about the subdails. At a glance I don't see it. Can some elaborate on the tells on this version?
- Dave
http://www.torobravo2015.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=37_142&product_id=1344
I know people talk about the subdails. At a glance I don't see it. Can some elaborate on the tells on this version?
- Dave
Hi Dave,
Great question..
I was like you.. looking and looking.. asking myself, what's up?
The sub dials on almost all Speedy reps are far apart. The gen's are closer together.
They are more "centered" and closer to the min and hour hands in the center of the dial.
Also most rep's sub dials are not recessed either.
The dials on toro's Numbered Edition are recessed but are far from the min and hour hands..
Well, that's my take.
Any other thoughts? Anyone?
Is it that simple?
Quartz rep from Toro: if this had been available in July 1969, it could well have been the preference for first watch on the moon..... for it´s precision, reliability, shockproofness - compared to an auto - and the endless functionality of the quartz stopwatch mechanism.
But it was not to be (the Astronauts took an ultramodern quartz Bulova with them as backup instead).
Wrong lettering on the subdials, good bracelet, no lume on the indices, solid, silent, nothing rattles or shakes, has the (in) famous "forall" wrong lettering on the caseback, happily ticking away small seconds at six
Simulated VR pic
Real driving pic
Hmm.. honestly this seems practically identical to my 70 dollar aaron watch except the subdials are re-lettered to correspond to their function and there's no date-wheel cutout. Same issue with the barely recessed subdials too. Same issue with the caseback saying "FORALL". I really think it's just the dial (possible crystal too but they look the same to me) that's different!
Would you happen to know the movement? The configuration for subdial functions match the Miyota OS20's.
For the purposes of the pdf/docx guide Aaron's is about 14.5mm give or take 0.1mm thick (don't wanna scratch crystal with calliper) and 42mm wide. Certainly damn close to genuine size. Up to you guys individually whether the benefit of TD service over aliexpress and the aforementioned differences justifies double the price. They are nice pieces though seriously if you have no particular strong love for mechanical at the cheaper end.
Quartz is definitely the way to go with these speedmasters. Apollo-Soyuz and DSOTM.
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where did you get that Apollo-Soyuz? Love it.
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Hi, interesting info, do You have some pics of it?
Over here (strict EU customs country, they don´t care how long it takes to check each and every single package from outside the EU) the customs spoil everything so the only way 4me are TDs. It´s a $60 tri-shipping on top of the price so any "cheapo" get´s an "expenso".
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It was m2m, so I'm not sure where it originally came from. I'm sure if you ask any TD, they can probably source one for you...
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Thanks Tyrande, I like that subdial at 3 even better and the date may come in handy, imho a functional positioning at 6.
I'd rather have what yours has at 3 to be honest - 24 hr hand easier to use when the markings are correct. That said 24hr hands aren't particularly useful in general unless you can set them separately from the main hour hand
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The subdails are to small. On the real one the subdails almost meet each other.
So don't know if I'm gonna order this now. It's very visible.
- Dave
It's not that the subdials are too small. They're too far apart. This is because the rep factories don't use movements that would allow them to be closer together. The quartz versions are closer together but... then you have quarts.
Rep speedies are a trade off of what you'll accept and what you won't because they all have their unique flaws.
Rep speedies are a trade off of what you'll accept and what you won't because they all have their unique flaws.
Been quiet here lately. I made this gif of the evolution of the speedy based largely on this Hodinkee article
What do u think about this ? The price is high?
http://puretime01.com/speedmaster-p...ph-axf-best-edition-on-ss-bracelet-a9300.html
http://puretime01.com/speedmaster-p...ph-axf-best-edition-on-ss-bracelet-a9300.html
Apart from being ridiculously over priced it's not even very accurate!
All of the new gen Speedmaster 57 models have applied markers with a mirrored edge APART from the 9300 'Moonwatch'
The new Coaxial 'Moonwatch' has a different dial from the rest of the range, it's flat printed, this copy has the applied markers with mirrored edges so looks nothing like the gen at all.
Also, the colour of the bezel is awful, it's grey with dark grey numerals instead of black and white! (presumably some vague attempt from the factory to try and simulate the shimmer of ceramic). Date window is in the wrong position and the sub dial @ 3 has those stupid fixed faux hands (they should rest at 12 like the gen).
In summary, in terms of looks it's a very expensive bit of rubbish.
Like me, If you do want this particular Moonwatch model I'd suggest making a cheap Quartz version until a decent rep is produced (in terms of looks it's pretty much exactly the same but at a fraction of the cost).
http://www.tswatch.club/17387-om173...-quartz_d8e055bc4496a3dfdfb662901f9a62d0.html
I have the Quartz myself and it's a great little watch. I've tried addressing some of the issues in an attempt to get it looking a bit more gen like.
I carefully overpainted the mirror edges of the markers so they appear 'flat', froze the hands @ 12 on the 3 sub dial, fitted a domed crystal and a nice croc leather strap.
The great thing also about this version is the size, it's exactly the same as the gen. Case 44.5mm. Bezel 41.6
That shitty grey bezel is a massive tell and still really bugs me, it is fixable because theoretically this little watch could take a gen bezel but at massive cost so I don't think I'll be going there!.
