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GMF Explorer II 226570 with VR3285 Made with Gen as Reference

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I remeber CTime saying that Clean is working on a version of this Exp 2, which is the only reason I've not bought the white dial yet...
 
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I hear ya, I’m surprised VSF haven’t done one. If they release one I’ll be tempted to get another in the black dial maybe
 

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The movement in the GMT does leave a bit to be desired. It now feels like the keyless skips a bit when winding, even from dead stop. I can get it to stop skipping if (with the back off) I put a little pressure on what I think is one of the axles of the pinion. With just the slightest pressure from a toothpick.
Outside looks great, inside looks great, just skips.
Starting to look for a local watchsmith that can clean it and resolve the issues. Beautiful looking, functionality of watch aside from winding crown, is what I want in a GMT watch.
Hopefully I can find a local watchsmith that can resolve. Otherwise a great watch.
 
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If anyone knows of a decent watch smith in the uk that can work on reps please hook me up as I need a guy thanks
 

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The movement in the GMT does leave a bit to be desired. It now feels like the keyless skips a bit when winding, even from dead stop. I can get it to stop skipping if (with the back off) I put a little pressure on what I think is one of the axles of the pinion. With just the slightest pressure from a toothpick.
Outside looks great, inside looks great, just skips.
Starting to look for a local watchsmith that can clean it and resolve the issues. Beautiful looking, functionality of watch aside from winding crown, is what I want in a GMT watch.
Hopefully I can find a local watchsmith that can resolve. Otherwise a great

The movement in the GMT does leave a bit to be desired. It now feels like the keyless skips a bit when winding, even from dead stop. I can get it to stop skipping if (with the back off) I put a little pressure on what I think is one of the axles of the pinion. With just the slightest pressure from a toothpick.
Outside looks great, inside looks great, just skips.
Starting to look for a local watchsmith that can clean it and resolve the issues. Beautiful looking, functionality of watch aside from winding crown, is what I want in a GMT watch.
Hopefully I can find a local watchsmith that can resolve. Otherwise a great watch.
When I am winding my gmf 226570, it has now started to give me a click/skip after one full rotation. Almost as if a spring is falling back into some space. Does this sound like the same problem you encountered with the keyless?
(Other than that the watch runs great but I avoid using the quick set of the hour hand as others have reported problems with that.)
 

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VSF doesn’t seem to be interested in GMTs. I’m still not sure the VSF GMT2 is actually from VSF.
it isnt, most the gmt experts are saying it has mostly clean parts that were from older batches
 

Trebor88

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Hello,
What movement do you consider most reliable for Explorer II? the gmf one? or the C+ one? SH3285 or VR3285? Or do they both have the same movement?
Is it possible to buy the VR3285 movement in case of breakdown?
I have also seen that Trusty sells the GMF with the A3285 movement, is it reliable? better or worse than the vr3285?
Sorry for so many questions but I'm pretty new to rep.
 

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AFAIK - somebody correct me if I'm wrong) GMF uses SH3285 movement while CF uses a -some say better - Dangdong VR3285 but they are not interchangeable, anyhow you can't get VR3285 anyhow, while SH3285 is available from AliX.
 

Trebor88

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AFAIK - somebody correct me if I'm wrong) GMF uses SH3285 movement while CF uses a -some say better - Dangdong VR3285 but they are not interchangeable, anyhow you can't get VR3285 anyhow, while SH3285 is available from AliX.
Hi,
Trusty has these two models of gmf and c+, both with VR3285. are they not the same movement?



It also has a gmf with A3285 movement. Is trustworthy? Are there replacement movements?


Which rep version do you consider best? and movement?

Thanks!
 

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C+ does not have the same movement as GMF. hence the date window on the C+ is off and not as true to gen as GMF. GM uses Shanghai movement, which is less reliable but the movement can be sourced separately.
 
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As for the - which is best - If I'd summarize everything I had read about 226570, I'd say the majority would vote for GMF but as all reps it has it's flaws. It's up to you to decide which of them you can live with and which are dealbreakers for you.
 
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Trebor88

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C+ does not have the same movement as GMF. hence the date window on the C+ is off and not as true to gen as GMF. GM uses Shanghai movement, which is less reliable but the movement can be sourced separately.
Could you provide an AliX link where this movement is sold and the seller is reliable? (If it is possible) I've seen several but I don't know if they are reliable.
Thanks