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Explorer I 214270 39mm ARF vs. BP vs. others?

Lazyman

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Got my BP Explorer 316L with A2836 movement from Lucy which took about 4 months to receive. Had it for about 3 weeks now and I absolutely love it, definitely worth the wait. Looks beautiful and feels solid.

Chose the BP since it was the model with the most gen like dial, and I wouldn't be able to stand the incorrect number 3. The bracelet, despite what I've read, feels perfectly fine and doesn't squeak or rattle. The movement is quiet and winds very smoothly as well.

My only minuscule criticism is the SEL recess. The SEL recess on 1'o clock and 7'o clock direction are perfect, 10/10. However the ones on 5'o clock and 11'o clock are ever slightly higher. I couldn't capture this with my camera because it wouldn't focus. But this is only a small criticism that you have to look extremely closely, on the wrist you won't ever notice.

The watch runs 20 to 30 seconds slower per day. I'm not too concerned with the accuracy of the watch so I could care less. And I like this watch so much that once the movement gives out I'm thinking of having gen ETA movement put in.

This leads to a question that I hope one of you can help out. I ordered this with 2836 movement, but someone here said that BP explorer 2836 is actually a 2824 that has been mislabeled. So does that mean when I want to swap in the gen movement I should use ETA 2824? Or is the size of the movement so similar that the case can take either one? I've read the 2836 is slightly thicker than 2824 due to the day/date function. Don't want to buy a gen movement and turn out to not fit. I don't know much about movements so I'd appreciate some help. Thanks
 
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Alnyc8

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Hello All, this is my very first post. Just received my ARF 214270 from Chazing time and the rehaut is completely off. Wanted to know if the rehaut can be realigned by a watch maker or is it edge on to the case it self?
 

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Hello All, this is my very first post. Just received my ARF 214270 from Chazing time and the rehaut is completely off. Wanted to know if the rehaut can be realigned by a watch maker or is it edge on to the case it self?

The dial might be able to be shifted to the left slightly by a watchmaker.
 

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The dial might be able to be shifted to the left slightly by a watchmaker.

don't think you need a watch repair specialist to turn the dial slightly to the left. You just need some simple tools to open the back, remove the stem, turn the movement (try rotate it with a screw driver), insert the crown stem, screw back the case back and voila.

Tools needed:

1. Rubber ball or case back opener. 2. 1.2mm screw driver. (2 screw drivers will be more optimal to rotate the movement)

Google on how to remove the crown stem for your type of movement. Plenty on the internet.

Good luck :thumbsup:
 
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Alnyc8

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Thank you for the responses, I will take it to a watcher maker for the adjustment, definitely not skillful enough to do it myself.
 

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Just from looking at the pictures, I would say the rehaut is not alligned. I think if the dial is turned, the whole watch is wrong. But I'm not an expert, I don't even know if you can turn the rehaut. Really annoying, I can live with many, but just the alignment of hand, reahut, numbers/markers on the bezel etc are already essential. A defect on the bracelet or case would bother me less.
 

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I'm looking various photos for ARF explorer I and in everyone it has this wrong rehaut.
I think is a project flaw by ARF
 

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I'm looking various photos for ARF explorer I and in everyone it has this wrong rehaut.
I think is a project flaw by ARF

yes but #79 seems just misaligned: if the rehaut crown would match with 12 it would be fine.

the first arf 214270 batches had wrong font spacing, so it was "perfect to ok" from 9 to 3, completely off from 3 to 9...

and as the 3 is still flawed on the dial on #79: bp, eta, arf bracelet - still the best combo in 2022.
 
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yes but #79 seems just misaligned: if the rehaut crown would match with 12 it would be fine.

the first arf 214270 batches had wrong font spacing, so it was "perfect to ok" from 9 to 3, completely off from 3 to 9...

and as the 3 is still flawed on the dial on #79: bp, eta, arf bracelet - still the best combo in 2022.

I heard crown is bad on BP. What exactly is wrong with it? Do you know the reference number of a GEN crown? Thanks
 

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The crown engraving should be the twinlock one with the straight line under the coronet. But it has the one with the two dots.
 

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Which movement is in it and is it all stock or you did some modifications? It looks awesome!

Its stock with the SA or SH 3132. Yes, it basically looks and feel GEN. I was able to compare it to GEN about 2 years ago and its a super REP.
 
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The crown engraving should be the twinlock one with the straight line under the coronet. But it has the one with the two dots.

My BP Explorer also has the correct crown with the straight line under the coronet, not the 2 dots.
 

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Its stock with the SA or SH 3132. Yes, it basically looks and feel GEN. I was able to compare it to GEN about 2 years ago and its a super REP.

I think the only thing that gets in the way of it being a super rep is the lume. Its pretty terrible. But then I guess if you usually wear it under the shirt cuff, you can always argue it didn't see enough light.
 

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I think the only thing that gets in the way of it being a super rep is the lume. Its pretty terrible. But then I guess if you usually wear it under the shirt cuff, you can always argue it didn't see enough light.

I’m actually very happy with the lume. No problem there.
 

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I think the only thing that gets in the way of it being a super rep is the lume. Its pretty terrible. But then I guess if you usually wear it under the shirt cuff, you can always argue it didn't see enough light.

I would relume it with BGW9 immediately when servicing the movement and all good