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Clean has released Rolex explorer 124270/214270 black dial on ss bracelet

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A big thank you to all those who helped me with my QC question, much appreciated.
 
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I already accepted this QC but the dial is shifted to the right yes? It should be an easy fix fot a watch maker to realign the dial?


 
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here. I fixed it for you 😂
You can send me my watchmaker fee later

more seriously. stop stressing. Your watch is fine.

take the pic on your phone, click edit and rotate the pic 2-3º anticlockwise
I'm not super picky with QC but look at the 3 aligned with the crown and it becomes obvious.

I've only ever RL'd due to movement health concerns (once, Clean Daytona had a stuttering chrono that I RL'd).
 

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well, tell us when you get the watch.
Until then, no need to stress about it.

adjusting a dial position can be done two ways. The simple way is to snip off the feet and position the dial with double sided tape dots. The right way is to solder the dial feet in the new position
 

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well, tell us when you get the watch.
Until then, no need to stress about it.

adjusting a dial position can be done two ways. The simple way is to snip off the feet and position the dial with double sided tape dots. The right way is to solder the dial feet in the new position
I will check with my watchmaker but I believe 32xx series had clamps instead of feet so you have some play so no dial snipping necessary, I only need a small shift left by like 1/2 a minute tick... all I'm wondering is if the VR3230 works like this, I heard it was a hybrid so maybe it still uses feet?
 

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well, tell us when you get the watch.
Until then, no need to stress about it.

adjusting a dial position can be done two ways. The simple way is to snip off the feet and position the dial with double sided tape dots. The right way is to solder the dial feet in the new position
I will check with my watchmaker but I believe 32xx series had clamps instead of feet so you have some play and adjustment so no dial snipping necessary, I only need a small shift left by like 1/2 a minute tick... all I'm wondering is if the VR3230 works like this, I heard it was a hybrid so maybe it still uses feet? Need a watch maker to chime in, maybe @KJ2020?
 

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Man....these watch maker factories are getting real good....so tempted..
 
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I'm not super picky with QC but look at the 3 aligned with the crown and it becomes obvious.

I've only ever RL'd due to movement health concerns (once, Clean Daytona had a stuttering chrono that I RL'd).
yes, but did you look at the alignment of the rehaut with the tick marks?
the crown is probably not aligned in the photo because the watch is facing the camera tilted down
 

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yes, but did you look at the alignment of the rehaut with the tick marks?
the crown is probably not aligned in the photo because the watch is facing the camera tilted down
I did, it's a little blurry but the tics are off by 1/2-3/4 minute tics. Guess I won't know until I get it in hand. All I wanted to know was if this was fixable haha, I'll just ask my watchmaker to do his best when I get it serviced.
 
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I might've missed the comments on this, but initial thoughts on BP 39mm vs Clean? I have the BP. Great watch, just would prefer better lume and the movement upgrade to 3130. But not if BP overal is better. @KJ2020 perhaps you already commented?
 

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I might've missed the comments on this, but initial thoughts on BP 39mm vs Clean? I have the BP. Great watch, just would prefer better lume and the movement upgrade to 3130. But not if BP overal is better. @KJ2020 perhaps you already commented?
Well, looking from the pictures, the only thing that the 39 Clean does better than BP imho is their rehaut. Everything else looks the same on such a simple watch.

Ok, new 3130 movement is cool but closed caseback so would you prefer the reliability of the A2836/2824 or a "clone movement" 3130? That's up to you, I would personally pick the 2824. Also, be warned right now, Clean is using 3132 plates instead of 3130, so the movement is technically wrong on these 39mm right now.

However, the one thing noone has commented on is the "feel", it's not a fair comparison but my Clean subs/DJs feel better to wear than my BP 39 Explorer, it's just something about the bracelet.

Also, for around 60% of the cost of the clean, the BP imho still takes the cake. Cheaper, practically the same, reliable movement.

You can look at pics on Page 3 :

 

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Hello! I just order the 39 from chazingtime - will post QC images when ready :)
 

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I will check with my watchmaker but I believe 32xx series had clamps instead of feet so you have some play so no dial snipping necessary, I only need a small shift left by like 1/2 a minute tick... all I'm wondering is if the VR3230 works like this, I heard it was a hybrid so maybe it still uses feet?
VR 32xx movements do have dials with underside rims that friction fit to the date indicator seating (date plate). There is usually a little bit of rotational play available in the dial until the slotted rims butt up against a date plate protruding tab.

Even if that happens, the tab or the dial rim can be shaved a little to permit further rotation. It's possible your dial is already rotated anti-clockwise as far as it will go.

Doing any of this rotation will likely require the hands to be re-set for obvious reasons. But at least on this watch the datewheel, date window, and cyclops are not present to become limiting issues. Those elements are significant factors to doing this on date watches.
 
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VR 32xx movements do have dials with underside rims that friction fit to the date indicator seating (date plate). There is usually a little bit of rotational play available in the dial until the slotted rims butt up against a date plate protruding tab.

Even if that happens, the tab or the dial rim can be shaved a little to permit further rotation. It's possible your dial is already rotated anti-clockwise as far as it will go.

Doing any of this rotation will likely require the hands to be re-set for obvious reasons. But at least on this watch the datewheel, date window, and cyclops are not present to become limiting issues. Those elements are significant factors to doing this on date watches.

I see the photos and it seems like horrible quality to be clean. the 12 o'clock marker misaligned. The minute markings on our edges were not glued to the wall in the original, hands with not very fine polishing, not to mention that the clean has the "explorer" mark under the hands (not above), the thickness of the marks in hours should be greater than minutes,… In my opinion, the only thing that's clean is the sticker.
 

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I see the photos and it seems like horrible quality to be clean. the 12 o'clock marker misaligned. The minute markings on our edges were not glued to the wall in the original, hands with not very fine polishing, not to mention that the clean has the "explorer" mark under the hands (not above), the thickness of the marks in hours should be greater than minutes,… In my opinion, the only thing that's clean is the sticker.