Clean Factory vs BT Factory - 116500 Panda Daytona - Updated

[mmaggi]

@Storm. - Stop fat shaming! LOL!

 

[Cozzus94]

Hi guys What do you think about this modded https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/daytona-116500-noob-v4-bezel-cf.10959661/ ? My intent is to buy an Clean v3 but i notice the cream colour of the dial and the terrible crown hole . I think this one is more like gen . Please help me !

 

[Karbon74]

Hi guys What do you think about this modded https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/daytona-116500-noob-v4-bezel-cf.10959661/ ? My intent is to buy an Clean v3 but i notice the cream colour of the dial and the terrible crown hole . I think this one is more like gen . Please help me !

just buy a BTF man

 

[c8vette]

I have recently received my ZF Panda, which I purchased in large part to compare to BTF and Clean before building a hybrid

Before I share the photos, here are my key takeaways:

• The dial is 100% the same dial as found in a CF. Same with the bezel.
• ZF's case shape is very nice, maybe 15-20% better than Clean's. The side profile is smoother and a bit thinner, with additional curvature where needed. But it's not that apparent.
• It also comes with a deep crystal, which means no need to replace the shit crystal as we must do on a CF
• Pushers are fat, yes, but they are fine. Didn't jump out once I had it in hand
• Seems to function as well as a DD, winds the same, and has kept good time

BIGGEST POINT FOR ANYONE LOOKING TO MOD:

• I bought this to take my CF black dial + movement and put into the ZF case. I succeeded at doing this without an issue
• However, when I then put the SH4130 from the ZF into the CF to make another watch, the SH movement did not fit in the CF case. To make sure I wasn't making a mistake, I also tried putting it in the BTF case. Same issue.
• Takeaway: if you really want to create a hybrid watch, your remaining ZF movement + CF or BTF case will have to be sold for parts. It cannot be fit inside the normal DD case.
• If you want to get a watch and reshape the case, just get a CF.

IF YOU'RE JUST LOOKING TO BUY A DAYTONA:

• I would 100% just get a ZF Panda over a CF panda now, if I were choosing between the two. It's less expensive, has a deep crystal, and a good case shape.

Pictures in the next post! Feel free to ask questions (unless they are dumb)

@daytonadude Did you try to see if ZF pushers and tube were able to be replaced by gen like BTF or proprietary like Clean?

 

[Zeta7]

Awesome looking watches and lots of great information. Thanks guys.

 

[Karabas]

Gents, its my turn to cinsider which Daytona to choose.
My main criteria is exterior closest to the gen.
Candidates: panda and black dial.
Biggest flaws on panda: white dial - colour differences
Biggest flaw on black dial clean - the crystal ( i have feeling, its not so clear under some angles ).

I personally, estetically like black dial more. It looks more modern.

Would you recommend to go for what I like or panda is closer to gen?

 

[mmaggi]

Get the BTF black dial 116500

 

[daytonadude]

@daytonadude Did you try to see if ZF pushers and tube were able to be replaced by gen like BTF or proprietary like Clean?

I had a little issue with the ZF I sold so it's now waiting for a keyless reset and is back in my hands... So I tested this out and, yes, the BTF pushers fit the ZF case.

 

[Karabas]

I had a little issue with the ZF I sold so it's now waiting for a keyless reset and is back in my hands... So I tested this out and, yes, the BTF pushers fit the ZF case.

Is it possible to get a deep crystal on clean from TD before they send it to you?

 

[kulaki]

Is it possible to get a deep crystal on clean from TD before they send it to you?

Yes! Just have to check with the TD. Cost about 50-60$ and normally services provided to change out the xtal is free

 

[haze3715]

Yes! Just have to check with the TD. Cost about 50-60$ and normally services provided to change out the xtal is free

I did this as too, but I wish daytonadude had posted this thread earlier before I GL my CF 500, lol.

Regarding pushers, I’m looking at the photo comparisons but can’t pick out the differences.

 

[daytonadude]

I did this as too, but I wish daytonadude had posted this thread earlier before I GL my CF 500, lol.

Regarding pushers, I’m looking at the photo comparisons but can’t pick out the differences.

Sorry brother! Having now spent time with all these watches, I don’t really think the pushers are a problem at all, if anything they look a lot closer to gen than CF’s (sorry hahaha)

 

[eBoy]

Hi guys What do you think about this

Am usually more of a Nike guy, but these bad boys looks purrdy darn good! Get 'em!

 

[mmaggi]

I have to agree about the pushers on the ZF 116500. They look alot closer to gen.

 

[rockdaytona]

I had a little issue with the ZF I sold so it's now waiting for a keyless reset and is back in my hands... So I tested this out and, yes, the BTF pushers fit the ZF case.

Bad sign the zF had problems right away

 

[daytonadude]

Bad sign the zF had problems right away

No, it was my fault, I took the movement in and out and hit the keyless too hard

 

[haze3715]

Sorry brother! Having now spent time with all these watches, Is gen brushed as opposed to polished?

 

[MaximillianGT]

Gents, its my turn to cinsider which Daytona to choose.
My main criteria is exterior closest to the gen.
Candidates: panda and black dial.
Biggest flaws on panda: white dial - colour differences
Biggest flaw on black dial clean - the crystal ( i have feeling, its not so clear under some angles ).

I personally, estetically like black dial more. It looks more modern.

Would you recommend to go for what I like or panda is closer to gen?

For the info you mentioned, if it's a whole of what you know about daytonas, then pick whatever pleases you, that makes no significant difference to you at all.

The white colour, the crystal, makes minimal to no difference to you when you hold the rep on hand. All you think this is a problem just because it's magnified 10x in a photo, and probably a slight difference with the white balance of the cam. BTF, Clean and the recent ZF, are both very good rep, it won't affect how others look at your watch in 3 feet above.

And if you wear it for a month or so and you still feel it's a problem, go franken because at this stage, you probably know what you are doing and the rep parts could no longer fulfil your wish.

 

[bpbp]

 

[2841]

I just got a couple of stock CF, so let me contribute a bit to this tread. gen is always to the left or on top

The last photo of the curvature is the biggest issue with ALL the rep cases, they are just not correct. We like to start out with the CF as a base, because every single surface has to be worked on, and the CF has sufficient metal in all the correct places, to give the best end result. The CF also has the best dial, in regards to print quality, font size, placement, subdial etc. only issue is of course the gray color






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