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BP Factory Rolex 16710 GMT Full Review VS Gen

Max Dad

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The BP at 13.4mm is considered fat.

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Nothing wrong with a polished caseback other than it being technically wrong for model. I have one BP 16710 with a polished caseback.

This caseback from RT is more appropriate if you wanted to try a different one.

http://rafflestime.com/submariner-watch-case-back/

The real test is how it feels on your wrist

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Looking at the details on Trusty:
[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]MOVEMENT: Asia 2813 Automatic GMT movement with correct hand stack (Hour Hand Adjustable)
CASE DIAMETER: 40mm
THICKNESS: 12.1mm
DIAL COLOR: Black Dial with Round Markers (Correct Hand Stack) - Superlume Applied
CASE MATERIAL:
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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Solid Stainless Steel 316F
BRACELET:
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[FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][FONT=arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Solid Stainless Steel 316F Oyster Bracelet with Flip Lock Buckle[/FONT]
FRONT GLASS: Sapphire Crystal with etched crown at 6:00 position


IS THICKNESS INCORRECT????
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The BP 16710 rehaut aperture is 27.4mm, so it wont take a gen dial, which is 27.3mm.

Yukiwatch just came out with a nice new GMT ETA dial which would fit, but all his ETA dials have ETA date window placements. That would require sourcing an ETA DW with Rolex fonts, and changing the crystal or moving the cyclops. All things I done on other watches, but in the opposite direction. I don't want to do all that to move another step AWAY from gen spec.

http://www.yukiwatch.net/GMT-Master-II-16710-ETA-dial-p148234110

Shit......just read this from you, so this https://www.chrono24.co.uk/rolex/pa...-swiss-only--id6521886.htm?checkoutId=4077342 will NOT fit the new 16710 I have just ordred...?
 

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Good evening at all, I will wait my Gmt Bp , I’d like to change the case back when I will receive .
Could you please send me link for buy slim case back from raffles ?
Thanks at all


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This is ok ?
Thanks


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This is ok ?
Thanks


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Yes that's the one that has worked for many people. If you haven't read about it, there are reports of it not fitting on some rep samples.
 
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Yes that's the one that has worked for many people. If you haven't read about it, there are reports of it not fitting on some rep samples.

Missed some pages I guess and didn’t realize there was an affordable option. I thought I had to buy a watch I didn’t want for it’s caseback. Worth a gamble for that price; I love this rep and height on my wrist is only flaw that bothers me.
 
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Do you know how much this will reduce the case height?

I've used several different ones myself bro including the one shown below. Obviously this one isn't period correct for a 16710 but it's fine on a rep of this value if you aren't putting a lot of money into upgrades. You can shave off about 0.9mm usually.

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After swap
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I've used several different ones myself bro including the one shown below. Obviously this one isn't period correct for a 16710 but it's fine on a rep of this value if you aren't putting a lot of money into upgrades. You can shave off about 0.9mm usually.


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Kj: I'm being nosy. Is that a Zeiss logo I'm seeing in the reflection?
 

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Kj: I'm being nosy. Is that a Zeiss logo I'm seeing in the reflection?

Haha it is bro. I swear by Zeiss lens cloths and wipes. They are the absolute best for cleaning crystals, cases, hands, dial markers - you name it. I have 3 or 4 large cloths and keep them in separate zip lock bags to keep dust off between use.
 

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Haha it is bro. I swear by Zeiss lens cloths and wipes. They are the absolute best for cleaning crystals, cases, hands, dial markers - you name it. I have 3 or 4 large cloths and keep them in separate zip lock bags to keep dust off between use.

Good taste in watches and lens wipes. Have any of their lenses??

I've used several different ones myself bro including the one shown below. Obviously this one isn't period correct for a 16710 but it's fine on a rep of this value if you aren't putting a lot of money into upgrades. You can shave off about 0.9mm usually.

I’d be thrilled to take off 0.9mm. I can live with the inaccurate looking caseback. I don’t take it off in public. And haven’t upgraded it yet.
 

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Haha it is bro. I swear by Zeiss lens cloths and wipes. They are the absolute best for cleaning crystals, cases, hands, dial markers - you name it. I have 3 or 4 large cloths and keep them in separate zip lock bags to keep dust off between use.

I applaud your excellent choice in Zeiss products! I use them as well, and also have two Zeiss microscopes, several loupes, binoculars, and camera lenses. I swear by them too!

Back on topic, and this may not be useful to anyone in this thread, but was digging through the parts bin and forgot I had this AliExpress watch I bought a couple or three years ago. I thought the drilled lug midcase might make a good host for a build, but the bezel is shit and lifts off with two fingers. But I measured the back thinking it might possibly be useful for a thin 16710 build, but maybe the threads are too small. I’m still waiting on my VN case from tripdog so I can’t test to see if it fits.

4.3mm thick
30.4mm threads

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Viet Case TRIPDOG, VR3185, Gen Dial (refinished), Gen Hands, Crystal, DW, Insert, Crown/tube, Italian 78360 from MarkiMark, Assembly Adrian, endlinks wso

This took well over 15 months with lots of idea and parts changes, Started out as a BP but we couldnt fit a Gen crystal and bezel even with lots of laser welding, I really should of started with Viet case
 

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Viet Case TRIPDOG, VR3185, Gen Dial (refinished), Gen Hands, Crystal, DW, Insert, Crown/tube, Italian 78360 from MarkiMark, Assembly Adrian, endlinks wso

This took well over 15 months with lots of idea and parts changes, Started out as a BP but we couldnt fit a Gen crystal and bezel even with lots of laser welding, I really should of started with Viet case

Incredible build - bracelet looks amazing on it.
 
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A-VIET-16710-19725f3e11ab56518.jpg

Viet Case TRIPDOG, VR3185, Gen Dial (refinished), Gen Hands, Crystal, DW, Insert, Crown/tube, Italian 78360 from MarkiMark, Assembly Adrian, endlinks wso

This took well over 15 months with lots of idea and parts changes, Started out as a BP but we couldnt fit a Gen crystal and bezel even with lots of laser welding, I really should of started with Viet case

Man if you ever sell this beauty I am in ????
 
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Any updates on the Raffles Time case back fitting on newer rep samples?

I'm tempted to buy a BP and swap the caseback. But I would be very happy to check if someone already tried