BP 16710 with VR3186

[pompompurin]

Bp16710 with alleged vr 3186, anyone able to confirm movement??

That's definitely a VR3186 / VR3185 movement. Congratulations!

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Although these GMT movements are engraved as "3186" and dealers often call them as "VR3186", hobbyists call these movements as "VR3185" because these movements' construction are actually a replica of the gen 3185 movement (and not of the gen 3186 movement).

The gen 3185 and gen 3186 movements have a different GMT hand-setting mechanism.

Overall and currently, the VR3185/VR3186 are synonymous (unless VR factory makes an actual clone of the 3186 movement in the future).

The 3186 has blue spring and better shock resistance, correct?

 

[charliehotel]

That's definitely a VR3186 / VR3185 movement. Congratulations!

Thanks pom, now just need to figure out a suitable option for a bezel insert / bezel assembly replacement lol

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Thanks pom, now just need to figure out a suitable option for a bezel insert / bezel assembly replacement lol

You are stuck with the bezel assembly unfortunately.

Inserts you can change at will

 

[pompompurin]

The 3186 has blue spring and better shock resistance, correct?

To my knowledge of all the VR3186 I have handled, all VR3186 should have blue hairspring since its release.
E.g., this post dates back to 2019 when VR3186 was announced. It has blue hairspring:

Any interest in VR3186 movements?

I might be able to bring in some VR3186 movements on top of the VR3135 that I'm currently supplying. Just want to gauge the interest of the VR3186 before commiting an amount to my supplier. Thanks for any input guys. Below are some pics.

forum.replica-watch.info

As for shock resistance, in short, I find all clone Rolex movements behave more or less the same

 

[bowtiefanatc]

To my knowledge of all the VR3186 I have handled, all VR3186 should have blue hairspring since its release.
E.g., this post dates back to 2019 when VR3186 was announced. It has blue hairspring:

Any interest in VR3186 movements?

I might be able to bring in some VR3186 movements on top of the VR3135 that I'm currently supplying. Just want to gauge the interest of the VR3186 before commiting an amount to my supplier. Thanks for any input guys. Below are some pics.

forum.replica-watch.info

As for shock resistance, in short, I find all clone Rolex movements behave more or less the same

Sorry, I was referring to 3185 vs 3186 in Gen circumstances.

 

[Satanduparadis]

I've received the QC faster than expected but I saw two flaws:
1. The dial seems not center (check the distance between the indexes and rehaut). Is that something easily fixable ?
2. The insert printing on the right is too fare from the center (number 6 is printed on the perimeter fir example). Not a big deal I think

I tried to compare this one with pictures of RWI members BP 16710 and they don't have the same problem. What's your input?

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Looks like every BP I’ve had. Get it and enjoy it. The issues you have are potentially photo angles.

 

[Satanduparadis]

Is there a way to center the dial by unscrewing the movement from the back and moving it a little inside the case with the tolerances?
I guess its a matter of half a millimeter at most.
I will also ask the TD a picture of the movement for confirmation.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Are you referring to it not lining up with the insert? Pop the bezel off, remove insert, reinstall bezel and align the insert. Or….its a bad angle

 

[Satanduparadis]

I'm referring to the indexes touching the rehaut around 10pm but not around 4 pm (see red arrows).
Either the dial is not centered inside the case (maybe fixable), or the dial is not printed correctly.
I didn't saw any BP with the same issue from pictures online

 

[bowtiefanatc]

It’s possible, or it’s the angle of the photo.

Just reject it and get another

 

[SHB]

Does the fat caseback is still a thing? Or they updated it?

Thanks

 

[Nur-Uhr]

I'm referring to the indexes touching the rehaut around 10pm but not around 4 pm (see red arrows).
Either the dial is not centered inside the case (maybe fixable), or the dial is not printed correctly.
I didn't saw any BP with the same issue from pictures online

I think the entire movement with dial and hands is not correctly aligned in the case!
Mostly when this issue appears.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Does the fat caseback is still a thing? Or they updated it?

Thanks

It’s updated on the newer 6 digit ones but still the same on the 5 digits unfortunately.

 

[johnlogan]

It’s updated on the newer 6 digit ones but still the same on the 5 digits unfortunately.

Yes, fat

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[SHB]

It’s updated on the newer 6 digit ones but still the same on the 5 digits unfortunately.

Alright, thanks.

(Offtopic, don't blame me please )
Does the new re-release 16610LV have a fat caseback?

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Alright, thanks.

(Offtopic, don't blame me please )
Does the new re-release 16610LV have a fat caseback?

I believe it’s normal. The Subs were always thicker.

 

[Nur-Uhr]

I believe it’s normal. The Subs were always thicker.

Submariners have thicker caseback cause of other caseback sealing.
Also for all 5 digits - the difference of crown, tube, caseback, crystal gasket.

5-digits:
Sub (GEN) 300m water resistant (triplock crown)
GMT (GEN) 100m water resistant (twinlock crown)

Same for the EX2 - same as GMT construction

 

[SHB]

Thanks guys!