• Tired of adverts on RWI? - Subscribe by clicking HERE and PMing Trailboss for instructions and they will magically go away!

Bezel and Dial Review of ZZF V2S 116610LV Submariner and Comparison vs. Gen, ARF V3 and Noob V10

jodelaplaya

Active Member
2/4/14
273
147
43
As someone who has the ZZF I would like to say yes that's true. The watch is still nice I really like the green. I sent videos to couple of my friends with Gen (black) subs and everyone said nice sunburst etc. I don't think someone without a gen side by side will call you out bassed on the insert. My only problem is that the ZZF dial can't replicate the real black shade. I think that is quite more obvious without a gen side by side (but just for experts and gen owners)

right ! but i think it's not a surprise, we already know that ! Bp dial is closer (except markers less rounded)

these real picture and comparaison of a RWI member reminds me that we were all asking why there is no comparaison of v2 and V2s, I hope we were not right .. cuz it look like a v2 insert on his pic
 
Last edited:

stufuse

Respected Member
22/10/17
3,659
2,454
113
UK
I'm may to do the comparison. He is busy but for sure the s insert is brighter and nicer than the v2 version

I agree it looks nice, what I’m saying is lots of people here are drawing comparisons without knowing full facts about a Gen iteration which renders it a pointless exercise.

Kind of like (but not same) as people moaning about blue colour of an AP dial when they didn’t know that more than one variation existed over a period of production.

I’m Not saying this is true of the hulk, but using it as an example. All the comments and comparisons are pointless unless you know you’re definitely comparing two of the same thing and that you know 100% that variants don’t exist.

For instance a Gen 2018 and a rep of that exact 2018 watch.

Watch looks great, I’d never know it’s not Gen if I encountered it and so I will but one and enjoy it.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

stufuse

Respected Member
22/10/17
3,659
2,454
113
UK
As someone who has the ZZF I would like to say yes that's true. The watch is still nice I really like the green. I sent videos to couple of my friends with Gen (black) subs and everyone said nice sunburst etc. I don't think someone without a gen side by side will call you out bassed on the insert. My only problem is that the ZZF dial can't replicate the real black shade. I think that is quite more obvious without a gen side by side (but just for experts and gen owners)

But I'm still suprised that the color is that much off..

I doubt someone with a Gen could call you out, majority of people who buy don’t think or care about the details. It’s nice Rolex watch they bought with thier hard earned cash. Unless they know about a replica hat do they have to compare with. No one is sad enough to examine your watch and give you an opinion


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Smoke

Legendary Member
18/3/13
14,093
2,220
113
As someone who has the ZZF I would like to say yes that's true. The watch is still nice I really like the green. I sent videos to couple of my friends with Gen (black) subs and everyone said nice sunburst etc. I don't think someone without a gen side by side will call you out bassed on the insert. My only problem is that the ZZF dial can't replicate the real black shade. I think that is quite more obvious without a gen side by side (but just for experts and gen owners)

But I'm still suprised that the color is that much off..

I've told you over pm this many times bro.the dial to get is the bp /gmf with clean markers
 

Smoke

Legendary Member
18/3/13
14,093
2,220
113
I'm going to review the s version myself 100 percent but it gonna be a repeat of the v2 review pretty much as it's the same watch hopefully the watch wont take too long.no nonsense review no flashy hi end camera work no special lighting equipment just a hard hitting review of the facts.showing the insert how it will look when you guys received it.plus I dont have expensive cameras or lighting boxes or shit like that.so I just do raw style some people seem to like that anyway so I'll stick with that style for now
 
Last edited:

Smoke

Legendary Member
18/3/13
14,093
2,220
113
i know bro but I dont want to change that and I just share my experience with the ZZF.

Ok so the zzf dial is perfectly fine if you not looking for perfecting.as the 2 flaws are the x and the black depth and how it blends with green at the same time .the zzf dial struggles to display deep black and forest green at the same time.this can been seen clearly in that comparison a few pages back of the zzf v2 s vs gen hulk
 
Last edited:

Smoke

Legendary Member
18/3/13
14,093
2,220
113
Is the current gmf/BP dial better colorwise? Or only the BP miyota dial?

Forget the myoyta that was discontinued years ago.the current gmf dial /vrf dial is amazing I've posted about it million times and my freind is using that dial with the clean zzf markers and the dial looks gen or as gen as I've ever seen a rep dial to be

Ps be careful as some bp dials are darker than others but that's only bp.the end and vrf dials seem consistent even though they are made by the same factory
 
Last edited:

Bobi01

Respected Member
2/2/19
3,913
3,446
113
Is it that much different in the dial or the gen crystal playing game here
as we can see here without crystal the gen have a just slightly darker green but not that obvious as on first picture
 

Smoke

Legendary Member
18/3/13
14,093
2,220
113
Gen dial can display black and green together easily the zzf dial struggles to do this is gets dark but not truly dark whilst its displaying green at the same time that and the x foot flaw are the only noticeable flaws. The markers are a work of art though
 
Last edited:

k4jun

Ω Section Moderator
Section Moderator
Certified
25/4/15
2,944
1,235
113
there are 3 different variations of the Hulk gen insert.

Dials I know, but it is interesting to hear about the different hulk inserts, care to post more?
 

Bobi01

Respected Member
2/2/19
3,913
3,446
113
Understand boss :)
still waiting for it but im now thinking should i sell it or keep it as it is but knowing that isnt close to gen will make problem in my head i know it i shouldve go for black sub zzf
 

Smoke

Legendary Member
18/3/13
14,093
2,220
113
Dials I know, but it is interesting to hear about the different hulk inserts, care to post more?

It's not true the hulk inserts are consistent. The pepsi ceramic has differencees during the baking process due to 2 colours being used .but the hulk and the ln and the smurf and the rest of the ceramic inserts are consistent.and if you even see a difference its lighting
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: rolex79 and stufuse

Smoke

Legendary Member
18/3/13
14,093
2,220
113
Dials I know, but it is interesting to hear about the different hulk inserts, care to post more?

It's not true the hulk inserts are consistent. The pepsi ceramic has differencees during the baking process due to 2 colours being used .but the hulk and the ln and the smurf and the rest of the ceramic inserts are consistent.and if you even see a difference its lighting
 

Smoke

Legendary Member
18/3/13
14,093
2,220
113
Whoah tripple post error never seen this before
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Reactions: Bobi01

Bobi01

Respected Member
2/2/19
3,913
3,446
113
Maybe the watch gods was trying to get a message across with the tripple quote error? Ha ha

Loool bro
so now when we saw that picture comparison from member,i ask you,as we know that more details comparison are visible on picures but what about in real life on naked eye? When you comparing with gen can you obviously spot the difference when you have both in hands
 

Smoke

Legendary Member
18/3/13
14,093
2,220
113
Loool bro
so now when we saw that picture comparison from member,i ask you,as we know that more details comparison are visible on picures but what about in real life on naked eye? When you comparing with gen can you obviously spot the difference when you have both in hands

Gen in left hand rep in right hand yeah definitely will see the difference for sure unless you have bad eyes.but it's not something that is calloutable as people say.without having a gen in the vicinity the zzf is great