remember that QC pics are taken at a different way than that stock pic. also lighting/colour correction on Ryan's stock images could make colours differ.
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ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's
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@DodgeDemon Those two pics are not at same scale. If you scale them similarly the fonts don't look appreciably different. The QC pic is also much clearer.Is this the same watch as advertised by Ryan?
They are different dials though, look at the SWISS MADE. In fact the QC looks like a RAF, with its more emerald insert and its proper insert 2 tail. Also I don't ever recall ARF using protective tape on its inserts. It's still a good rep but the RAF has some known bezel issues.
Regarding the QC dial and bezel looking out of place, a bezel appears differently with the slightest tilt or rotation of the viewing angle. It's probably OK.
Look at the triangle on this bezel with just a slight tilt forward of the watch right side to center the datewheel in the cyclops.
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I’ll stick with my RAF v2 Kermit. It’s really looks great. I’ll swap a VR or VS in eventually, but for now I love it.
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Loose bezel issue was fixed simply by adding a second washer under the bezel. Clicks are nice and solid now.
The older “ARF” LN that I got right before the Kermit had the protruding crown and actually incorrect crown (had large middle dot). Makes me think I was sold an RAF LN labeled as an ARF. Which is also why I don’t put any stock in these being “ARF”, it’s all marketing.
The older “ARF” LN that I got right before the Kermit had the protruding crown and actually incorrect crown (had large middle dot). Makes me think I was sold an RAF LN labeled as an ARF. Which is also why I don’t put any stock in these being “ARF”, it’s all marketing.
Do appreciate the responses showing me their opinion. Still, even with scaling to size the font is definitely different there’s no way of convincing me of that. And the rotation of the bezel, you are dead on, but, what I meant more so is the 6 rectangles on the bezel are much thicker when lined up with the 2 dial rectangles on the QC version. On the website the 6 bezel rectangles look a bit thinner than the 2 on the dial. My terminology is terrible, and I’m new to this so my opinion doesn’t mean jack I’m just telling what I see
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Looks good bro, and an awful lot like the QC picsI’ll stick with my RAF v2 Kermit. It’s really looks great. I’ll swap a VR or VS in eventually, but for now I love it.
That's a very good visual example. Some people talk shit on things being misaligned where it's much more likely it's just a matter of slightly different angle, or a wide angle lens, etc. Things can look off in the photos, wheres they really aren't (noticeably) in real life.@DodgeDemon Those two pics are not at same scale. If you scale them similarly the fonts don't look appreciably different. The QC pic is also much clearer.
They are different dials though, look at the SWISS MADE. In fact the QC looks like a RAF, with its more emerald insert and its proper insert 2 tail. Also I don't ever recall ARF using protective tape on its inserts. It's still a good rep but the RAF has some known bezel issues.
Regarding the QC dial and bezel looking out of place, a bezel appears differently with the slightest tilt or rotation of the viewing angle. It's probably OK.
Look at the triangle on this bezel with just a slight tilt forward of the watch right side to center the datewheel in the cyclops.
I had no idea giving my opinion in a respectful way and saying I’m new is talking shit lmao
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These are definitely RAF masquerading as ARF. Because RAF is the only factory making these in the rep world apart from BP. ARF couldn't be more dead.
Looks good bro, and an awful lot like the QC pics
@KJ2020 brother, does my ARF sub look ok? Would you please take a look for me as well?
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Update from ryan:
Maybe ARF 2.0 bro but so far we haven't seen the real thing.From Tony Asian7750
One difference I noticed on the dial print is the "Y" of officially.Is this the same watch as advertised by Ryan?
Also I think the font is a little different and the "swiss made" is closer together on the actual QC pics.
Nevertheless I think its a great rep and I'm really looking forward to receive my QC pics.
The promo pictures are always a little different than the actual product. Also for the latest clean explorer 36 release. They fine-tune some stuff right before the release. So its not totally unusual.
All in all I don't think the actual watch looks worse than the promo pictures watch.
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That looks like a RAF bro but that's not a bad thing.@KJ2020 brother, does my ARF sub look ok? Would you please take a look for me as well?
How do you explain the new ARF releases tho? They released the ym42, some dj's etc. etc.
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My dealer said the “new” ARF is one of the original ARF cofounders.
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Those are the QC pics we've been saying look like RAF and not like Intime's "new" ARF pics (the real thing).
Thanks @KJ2020 brother!
What are the main difference between ARF and RAF lv?
I just feel like raising a ARF lv kid for years now it reveals that it’s a biological RAF child instead
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ARF-RAF-ARF-ARF! ARGHH Just give me one I'll be OK, haha.
