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ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's
- Thread starter vince23
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@KJ2020 brother, does my ARF sub look ok? Would you please take a look for me as well?
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Would be interesting to have geektime open up the caseback. Afaik only steve does that?
from the datewheel it looks like a VR datewheel. nothing like RAF's previous SH datewheel or ARF's hideous fonts
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I thought you were the wise one... did you really think it'll ever end? LOL
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This is one of the newer listings by Jtime based on it being on page 2 of "New Arrivals."
Based on that photo its still an SH3135 vs the supposed VR
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What dealer are these QC from?my qcs are in. got sent an LV instead.. no worries. already on its way to me.
As someone who has long and repeatedly looked for 5-digit subs for month while there just weren't any (before the RAF relaese), I kept always stumbling across the old ARF ones listed at chazingtime. They never kicked them from the site. LN also both with the long nose "2". Funny part: Green also with the different shades between rehaut/no rehaut. But vice versa! 
(Just comparing InTime vs. ChazingTime ARFs)
But then again, after reading and comparing a lot now: Between jtime, InTime and ChazingTime are discrepancies regarding the small screw on that one movement part. And then again again the greens on the LVs, Flat Four here, non Flat Four there... it's all a mess!
When the "RAF" ones dropped, nearly everybody thought, that it's ARF. Just a spelling error. I for one think more then ever now, it's all the same in the end! ARF might not the same "ARF" like some time ago. But the people who buying parts from suppliers, cobble them together and putting "RAF/ARF" stickers on them are more or less the same. Those difference here and there are just "come on, let's make another round 16610s" batches for me!
My head smokes...
(Just comparing InTime vs. ChazingTime ARFs)But then again, after reading and comparing a lot now: Between jtime, InTime and ChazingTime are discrepancies regarding the small screw on that one movement part. And then again again the greens on the LVs, Flat Four here, non Flat Four there... it's all a mess!
When the "RAF" ones dropped, nearly everybody thought, that it's ARF. Just a spelling error. I for one think more then ever now, it's all the same in the end! ARF might not the same "ARF" like some time ago. But the people who buying parts from suppliers, cobble them together and putting "RAF/ARF" stickers on them are more or less the same. Those difference here and there are just "come on, let's make another round 16610s" batches for me!
My head smokes...
I have not yet, still waiting. I spoke to him and he accepted my payment on Sunday for reference.
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For what it’s worth, this is QC from Hont posted in Reddit 3 months ago. Way before Ryan had these posted on his website.
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There were also some "RAFs" sold with AR stickers shown in the RAF thread so yeah it looks like they're related and you get what you get.For what it’s worth, this is QC from Hont posted in Reddit 3 months ago. Way before Ryan had these posted on his website.
On the plus side they are all completely acceptable looking 16610s. Tweak 'em up as you feel the need or be happy with 'em stock.
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Agreed. 99.8% of people will just say “nice watch” if anything at all.
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I guess the main thing for me would be the movement. This “ARF” supposedly has VR (even though Ryan advertises it as SH)?
I’ll stick with my RAF v2 Kermit. It’s really looks great. I’ll swap a VR or VS in eventually, but for now I love it.
I think you got the later batch of sh3135 movements because your date font looks thinner (which is always welcomed, opposed to the typical fat/ bloated sh3135 date font).
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Definitely. I had an “ARF” that definitely was a mislabeled RAF as it had all of the tell tale signs of the V1 RAF. When compared to the Kermit you definitely could tell the differences.
