ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's

[Antihero9000]

Horlogear have a Flat 4 insert

https://horlogearusa.com/products/g...ex-submariner-116610lv?variant=49954945728786

 

[MoD2Franken]

Horlogear have a Flat 4 insert

https://horlogearusa.com/products/g...ex-submariner-116610lv?variant=49954945728786

Do you know if this is gen spec and will Press-fit like gen ? Have my doubts when they state in description that adhesive pad is included for installation…

 

[Antihero9000]

It's advertised that it will, but it's been measured here as the smaller common OD of ~37.4mm. Gen insert OD is ~37.65mm so the Horlogear insert will leave a small gap to the inside of the bezel rim in a gen or gen-spec bezel.

Do you know if this is gen spec and will Press-fit like gen ? Have my doubts when they state in description that adhesive pad is included for installation…

 

[Brett0712]

Do you know if this is gen spec and will Press-fit like gen ? Have my doubts when they state in description that adhesive pad is included for installation…

I put a horlogear insert in my ARF 16610 and it snapped into the bezel like it was made for it. No adhesive needed. I've been wearing it daily for 9mo without issue.

 

[Usd97]

Gents and gals. Thanks all for the detailed 74 pages. Spent a full day going through this thread. Funny how the curve evolved from full excitement for the ARF releases to the discovery of the crap lume. I’m torn and really want a 5 digit sub since years and now finally pulling the trigger. Is anyone on this sub willing to sell their LN or LVs? Modded or unmodded I don’t mind.

Secondly if I purchase new, still not sure if I should go for the ARF or just a BP. Any advice/messages will be appreciated. Thanks all!

 

[bowtiefanatc]

I’d still go ARF over BP unless budget is constrained.

 

[Usd97]

Understood. For the crap lume on the LV, has it improved at all? Should I just get an LN and replace the bezel? /get a bezel from the TD? What’s the best path forward. Ideally anyone willing to sell theirs in the next couple of days please let me know as well. In the west coast, US.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

Understood. For the crap lume on the LV, has it improved at all? Should I just get an LN and replace the bezel? /get a bezel from the TD? What’s the best path forward. Ideally anyone willing to sell theirs in the next couple of days please let me know as well. In the west coast, US.

Replacing the bezel is only one piece. New dial and hands need to be changed if you want an LV.

Even buying parts from Alibaba they have the same issue.

 

[Usd97]

Ah gotcha. I’m checking with the TDs if the lume still sucks. Definitely eyeing the flat 4 LV no Rehault.

 

[Usd97]

Here’s some gods work from JTIME. It does seem like the LN hands are matching the dots.

LV dial is just too white.

 

[Usd97]

Ugh I won’t be able to live with it. If no one ends up putting up their relumed/modded LV in the next couple of days I’m just going to get a ARF LN.

 

[Antihero9000]

LN with a Kermit insert won’t work as the LV has a maxi dial. Totally different visually

 

[Usd97]

May have gotten my answer I was looking for tbh!!!

Post in thread 'BP Re-Releases 5-Digit Submariners with VR3135'
https://forum.replica-watch.info/th...ubmariners-with-vr3135.10959925/post-11582948

@KJ2020 🫡

 

[goodpm]

This is why I just use the Alibaba cases and build what I want

New here, but I'm considering doing the same. When you build one yourself, where do you get your dials and hands from?

When it's all said and done, do you save any money by building it yourself?

 

[HulkyGalore]

New here, but I'm considering doing the same. When you build one yourself, where do you get your dials and hands from?

When it's all said and done, do you save any money by building it yourself?

It may or may not be cheaper to build it yourself, depending on if the complete item is bought used or new, where from, how you buy the parts etc.
In any case, the benefit of building your own is that its a lot of fun and you learn a lot. It is also a hobby without a ceiling in that there is so much to learn you will never know everything, its like a journey.

 

[goodpm]

It may or may not be cheaper to build it yourself, depending on if the complete item is bought used or new, where from, how you buy the parts etc.
In any case, the benefit of building your own is that its a lot of fun and you learn a lot. It is also a hobby without a ceiling in that there is so much to learn you will never know everything, its like a journey.

Have you used the Sillan dials and hands? I've built many a Seiko mod so I have some level of experience with the process, but getting into reps has been an entirely new rabbit hole - especially when it comes to sourcing parts and their differing levels of detail/correctness.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

You might save a little by doing it yourself. You get to increase the customization and get to choose the specific parts that you use.

 

[HulkyGalore]

Have you used the Sillan dials and hands? I've built many a Seiko mod so I have some level of experience with the process, but getting into reps has been an entirely new rabbit hole - especially when it comes to sourcing parts and their differing levels of detail/correctness.

I got a used raf dial and hands some time ago that I have in a watch. More recently I got a dial and hands which I think are silian, the hands don't look identical to the raf ones but are close. Here is a link to the build with the raf parts:

Lets look at this interesting 16610

Some time ago I saw a cheap 16610LV for sale. After a week it sold and I thought, I should have bought that. I needed a case, love 5 digit subs and could have used it. It even had some bits of the original metal bracelet. Apparently, from mid 2000's. Then recently, the person who had bought it...

forum.replica-watch.info

Reading the ARF and BP threads should give you a good idea of what is available out there from different sources. Some people buy complete watches just to get the parts they want and sell the rest so sometimes you can pick up bits in the sales section here. 16610's are quite popular so they don't last long...

 

[trash3939]

I didn't like the difference between the luminescence on the hands and dial so I repainted the luminescence on the hands.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I didn't like the difference between the luminescence on the hands and dial so I repainted the luminescence on the hands.

Looks spot on! Envious of your skills.