ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's

[krizzy]

Thanks very much! I also found the clickspring from them.

If you scroll back few pages, there has been some other links , I think from WSO.

Shipping to Switzerland was 40$ so went with different seller.

But anyway very cheap and effective mod, makes a world of difference

 

[KJ2020]

So reporting back on the bezel mod that has been recommended by @KJ2020 , to add a washer and replace the click spring.
Extremely easy to do and it has now the gen-like click.
The shim that I got was quite thin so no sanding required.
Spring also works great and doesn't have as much back play as stock
Few pics of the process:

1. After bezel removal and spring removed

2. Stock bezel and spring


3. Replacement spring and washer from eBay seller Watchbandman50


4. New Spring installed, great click on it's own.


5. Bezel reinstalled - still loose


6. After adding the washer and reinstalling it all, very satisfied with the result.

Good deal bro, glad it's sorted. I wouldn't be using your bezel as a fidget spinner, though - the bezel teeth are showing some wear. Plenty of life left for normal use but easy on the frivolous freewheelin' haha.

 

[krizzy]

Good deal bro, glad it's sorted. I wouldn't be using your bezel as a fidget spinner, though - the bezel teeth are showing some wear. Plenty of life left for normal use but easy on the frivolous freewheelin' haha.

Sharp eyes!
But indeed guilty of playing with the bezel too much haha. For a potential replace, is the WSO a good one? Thanks !

 

[krizzy]

Good deal bro, glad it's sorted. I wouldn't be using your bezel as a fidget spinner, though - the bezel teeth are showing some wear. Plenty of life left for normal use but easy on the frivolous freewheelin' haha.

Sharp eyes!
But indeed guilty of playing with the bezel too much haha. For a potential replace, is the WSO a good one? Thanks !

 

[KushBandit]

Sharp eyes!
But indeed guilty of playing with the bezel too much haha. For a potential replace, is the WSO a good one? Thanks !

The WSO can definitely be good, it's hit or miss depending on the batch

 

[Scotchman]

My 11610 came in last night. I pulled off the caseback and confirmed this is the newer SH movement (forgot to take pics). I was planning to swap in the VS3135 movement I have, however after tweaking around on the timegrapher I was able to regulate it good enough that I might not mess with it.







Here is the 16610 next to a Seikolex I built, waiting on some Mil Spec style hands to swap.



114060 and 16610




Overall happy with the ARF 16610, seems like a good foundation.

Some notes:

The bezel action is meh, I have a new friction gasket and click spring on the way so that should take care of that issue.

The bezel pip seems to be a little "larger" or "higher" than the original V2. However the "long 2" on the 20 remains. I have two bezel inserts coming and will try them out - will post update pics.

Not sold on the Cyclops yet. I think it's an eyesore. Perhaps if I swapped in a crystal with the AR coating under it might be better. Any suggestions on a high quality aftermarket crystal?

 

[Geonor]

My 11610 came in last night. I pulled off the caseback and confirmed this is the newer SH movement (forgot to take pics). I was planning to swap in the VS3135 movement I have, however after tweaking around on the timegrapher I was able to regulate it good enough that I might not mess with it.







Here is the 16610 next to a Seikolex I built, waiting on some Mil Spec style hands to swap.



114060 and 16610




Overall happy with the ARF 16610, seems like a good foundation.

Some notes:

The bezel action is meh, I have a new friction gasket and click spring on the way so that should take care of that issue.

The bezel pip seems to be a little "larger" or "higher" than the original V2. However the "long 2" on the 20 remains. I have two bezel inserts coming and will try them out - will post update pics.

Not sold on the Cyclops yet. I think it's an eyesore. Perhaps if I swapped in a crystal with the AR coating under it might be better. Any suggestions on a high quality aftermarket crystal?

Eyy another Seikomod enjoyer

 

[sgt.njoy]

My 11610 came in last night. I pulled off the caseback and confirmed this is the newer SH movement (forgot to take pics). I was planning to swap in the VS3135 movement I have, however after tweaking around on the timegrapher I was able to regulate it good enough that I might not mess with it.







Here is the 16610 next to a Seikolex I built, waiting on some Mil Spec style hands to swap.



114060 and 16610




Overall happy with the ARF 16610, seems like a good foundation.

Some notes:

The bezel action is meh, I have a new friction gasket and click spring on the way so that should take care of that issue.

The bezel pip seems to be a little "larger" or "higher" than the original V2. However the "long 2" on the 20 remains. I have two bezel inserts coming and will try them out - will post update pics.

Not sold on the Cyclops yet. I think it's an eyesore. Perhaps if I swapped in a crystal with the AR coating under it might be better. Any suggestions on a high quality aftermarket crystal?

I would go with VSF or Deep crystal. Very budget friendly and close to gen AR.

 

[Scotchman]

Eyy another Seikomod enjoyer

Nice! I'd be interested in where you sourced that dial! All the Marine Master ones I've found have that glued on logo, not the nicer printed one like you have.

 

[Geonor]

Nice! I'd be interested in where you sourced that dial! All the Marine Master ones I've found have that glued on logo, not the nicer printed one like you have.

The store I got it from is gone now. It's the only enameled/lacquered sub style marinemaster dial I've found on Aliexpress. It's a bit weird with the Prospex logo on top and the hyphen in Marinemaster but it looks real good in hand. The case is an NH35 6-digit sub case I sanded down and shaped to look like a 5-digit sub. Swapped out the ceramic bezel insert for an aluminum.

The other one I made but getting off topic haha

 

[cjt202020]

This is my arf from 2020. Clark’s xtal with ar vs3135 + click spring upgrade

 

[KJ2020]

Not sold on the Cyclops yet. I think it's an eyesore. Perhaps if I swapped in a crystal with the AR coating under it might be better. Any suggestions on a high quality aftermarket crystal?

Clark's crystals with AR cyclops (Ebay) are a nice upgrade. I've used quite a few of them and actually considered putting one on my gen 16710. The gen no LEC no AR crystals never suited me. In the end I put a gen B25-295-CAR-C1 on my 16710, but Clark's are a decent improvement over a lot of stock rep 5 digit crystals.

Same watch

 

[Scotchman]

This is my arf from 2020. Clark’s xtal with ar vs3135 + click spring upgrade

That's sharp! I'll def try that xtal out before moving along with this watch.

 

[lukko]

Clark's crystals with AR cyclops (Ebay) are a nice upgrade. I've used quite a few of them and actually considered putting one on my gen 16710. The gen no LEC no AR crystals never suited me. In the end I put a gen B25-295-CAR-C1 on my 16710, but Clark's are a decent improvement over a lot of stock rep 5 digit crystals.

Same watch

Mate i’ve a question about gen tube installing. Do u know if these cases have already 3x0.35 theard or these need to be drilled and then retapped? Ofcourse, the counterbored also tnx!

 

[KJ2020]

Mate i’ve a question about gen tube installing. Do u know if these cases have already 3x0.35 thread or these need to be drilled and then retapped? Ofcourse, the counterbored also tnx!

I can't say firsthand bro, maybe @pompompurin can chime in. He installed a gen crown, but on the rep tube IIRC.

 

[pompompurin]

Mate i’ve a question about gen tube installing. Do u know if these cases have already 3x0.35 theard or these need to be drilled and then retapped? Ofcourse, the counterbored also tnx!

Regardless of whether the tube is claimed to be gen spec, all tube holes need to be tapped prior to upgrading the tube to clean any remaining debris like glue residue and to make sure there are no tolerance issues (e.g., rep factory's tapping tools can get dull over time).

 

[johnlogan]

 

[Gaspacho]

My 11610 came in last night. I pulled off the caseback and confirmed this is the newer SH movement (forgot to take pics). I was planning to swap in the VS3135 movement I have, however after tweaking around on the timegrapher I was able to regulate it good enough that I might not mess with it.







Here is the 16610 next to a Seikolex I built, waiting on some Mil Spec style hands to swap.



114060 and 16610




Overall happy with the ARF 16610, seems like a good foundation.

Some notes:

The bezel action is meh, I have a new friction gasket and click spring on the way so that should take care of that issue.

The bezel pip seems to be a little "larger" or "higher" than the original V2. However the "long 2" on the 20 remains. I have two bezel inserts coming and will try them out - will post update pics.

Not sold on the Cyclops yet. I think it's an eyesore. Perhaps if I swapped in a crystal with the AR coating under it might be better. Any suggestions on a high quality aftermarket crystal?

Off topic but does the 114060 wear much larger than the16610?

 

[johnlogan]

Yes!

 

[Gaspacho]

Yes!