ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's

[vince23]

I just got my qc pics for the LN but it looks like the RAF with no long 2 (on 20) and the sticking out crown tube. TD said this was all they can source.... disappointing

let me have a quick guess on who your TD is... Hont, right?

I don't like him as he was very unfriendly to me. I think you should get a refund and buy one of the "real new" arf's with intime or your TD of choice.

 

[Reaps]

It seems like the LVs are the way to go if you want "new ARF". Quite frankly I want one of these but I don't want to commit to something that basically is like pixie dust : we don't actually know what we're going to get.

 

[Lampa]

here are some pictures for those who are interested in the movement, the pictures are from my watch.

 

[mclarendude]

here are some pictures for those who are interested in the movement, the pictures are from my watch.

It keeps becoming quite difficult to not say this isn't a VR.

Also, why the heck do they have it positioned like that on the timegrapher? LOL Good to know that if you wear your watch diagonally it will run at -7 s/d.

My only concern is that I have not had any VR movements with such high amplitudes, even gens tend to average around 260+/-.

But then again, Rolex Service Center guidance states that they can have a max of 300 at full wind.

All of this is just making me wonder why the hell I have not bought one yet.

 

[vince23]

here are some pictures for those who are interested in the movement, the pictures are from my watch.

Thanks for the pictures!

It keeps becoming quite difficult to not say this isn't a VR.

Also, why the heck do they have it positioned like that on the timegrapher? LOL Good to know that if you wear your watch diagonally it will run at -7 s/d.

My only concern is that I have not had any VR movements with such high amplitudes, even gens tend to average around 260+/-.

But then again, Rolex Service Center guidance states that they can have a max of 300 at full wind.

All of this is just making me wonder why the hell I have not bought one yet.

Go for it mr. mclarendude - its not too late yet

 

[mclarendude]

Go for it mr. mclarendude - its not too late yet

 

[aHero]

I just got my qc pics for the LN but it looks like the RAF with no long 2 (on 20) and the sticking out crown tube. TD said this was all they can source.... disappointing

My QC looked just like that but different dealer.

 

[bowtiefanatc]

That certainly is a VR. Now hopefully no bait & switch

 

[aHero]

My non TD could only come up with RAF and said we can accept, refund, or apply credit to a new watch.



I gave in and emailed Ryan.

 

[sgt.njoy]

Wow!!!this one have mk1 dial “Swiss Made” large same to fat four and insert is similar to fat four..
Correct holes to second hand and nice GC…
Very nice LV

Agree! That dial and insert is calling my name lol

 

[johnchpark]

My non TD could only come up with RAF and said we can accept, refund, or apply credit to a new watch.



I gave in and emailed Ryan.

So for the LN, difference is the visible crown tube and the “2” on the “20”?
Are there any other visible distinctions between the RAF and “new” ARF?

 

[mcboom]

So for the LN, difference is the visible crown tube and the “2” on the “20”?
Are there any other visible distinctions between the RAF and “new” ARF?

Believe the big one is the VR movement

 

[aHero]

Believe the big one is the VR movement

I’ve had two dealers tell me the RAFs are coming with VR as well, but I have no evidence to substantiate this claim.

 

[mcboom]

I’ve had two dealers tell me the RAFs are coming with VR as well, but I have no evidence to substantiate this claim.

So many mysteries to be cleared up waiting for confirmation of the movement before I pull the pin

 

[KJ2020]

I bet all of these are coming from the same workshop. It has boxes of parts from every previous RAFARF parts source. Each one made might be different from the next in some small way, down to the sticker. But they all look decent, they are Kings afterall. They are RAFARF, haha.

 

[johnchpark]

Is this the one?

 

[johnchpark]

Is this the one?

Edit. I guess not. Got sent the pic by a TD but posted before I actually looked at the image
Looks like old RAF still in these images

 

[aHero]

No email replay from Ryan

 

[Daryl70]

hmm it’s been a while had no idea that raf and arf went bust. These look fairly good I’m interested in the ln no rehault version. Does anyone have any more qc pics yet?

 

[GMTFanboy]

No email replay from Ryan

You could always just order it directly off the website, and when it comes to payment, select “Litecoin” and type “will pay by PayPal liberal”. This way you get your order in and you can wait for him to respond so you can pay him.