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ARF GMT 116710 SH3186 photo review

botsyboy

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Taking the back off to look would be the first step.


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Yeah i dont have any tools and i wouldn't want to make things any worse given my lack of knowledge.

Is it something that can be fixed with a service? My plan on getting this watch was to get it services by a local watch maker but given current cirumstance with coronavirus that will be tricky.
 

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Yeah i dont have any tools and i wouldn't want to make things any worse given my lack of knowledge.

Is it something that can be fixed with a service? My plan on getting this watch was to get it services by a local watch maker but given current cirumstance with coronavirus that will be tricky.

Of course yes. With a good service your watch it will be' perfect ;-)
 

Goon3r

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Annoyingly but rightly so all the watch repair shops are closed, so i’m going to have to wait this out.

Been listening to this one some more and there is some times a rattle when i shake it, it’s by no means silent and i believe (just going from the different sounds) there is at least two loose /free parts in there.

I’m going to email the seller it, it was alot of money for me (and yes i know a rep is a rep is not a gen) so its a shame the movement has arrived damaged/faulty and hopefully we can sort something out. Anyone else found themselves in this situation? Any tips on approaching this/outcomes etc?
 
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Annoyingly but rightly so all the watch repair shops are closed, so i’m going to have to wait this out.

Been listening to this one some more and there is some times a rattle when i shake it, it’s by no means silent and i believe (just going from the different sounds) there is at least two loose /free parts in there.

I’m going to email the seller it, it was alot of money for me (and yes i know a rep is a rep is not a gen) so its a shame the movement has arrived damaged/faulty and hopefully we can sort something out. Anyone else found themselves in this situation? Any tips on approaching this/outcomes etc?

unrelated to the thread, but i have a 1675 GMT arrive with the same issue albeit mine had an Asian ETA in it. But nonetheless it was a rotor bearing issue for me. I'm sending it to a guy based in the UK to get mine fixed.

But I do hope my ARF doesn't have the same issue as well lol.
 

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I cant pretend to have any knowledge in this area but when googling the scraping sound the result i was getting back we’re all around the rotor.

It would be great to hear from other people with the ARF and SH3186 to see if this is a common problem or not.

Im UK based too bootlegboy who did you end up sending to? Im thinking of ringing round leeds shops and hoping to find someone local, would rather go to a known reliable rep friendly smith though.
 

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I cant pretend to have any knowledge in this area but when googling the scraping sound the result i was getting back we’re all around the rotor.

It would be great to hear from other people with the ARF and SH3186 to see if this is a common problem or not.

Im UK based too bootlegboy who did you end up sending to? Im thinking of ringing round leeds shops and hoping to find someone local, would rather go to a known reliable rep friendly smith though.

I’m sending it to ado213. My go to guy for all my work!
 

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Ado is very good. I’ve never used him but many have here in the uk. A service as said will cure the problem for sure. He might also recommend some gen parts upgrades to the SH3186 but that depends on your budget.


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Thats great, thanks for letting me know. Is there a section here where the watch makers advertise themselves? I’ve searched the forums and not been able to find much around member services etc.

My plan was to wait this movement out and get a VR3185 installed into the ARF. Im going to need to weigh out cost/benefit of fixing up the SH3186 bs paying to get a VR3185 installed.

I will speak to ado, but yeah if there is a section of the forum where watch makers pitch their services please pop a link here :)
 

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Anyone know if the ARF bracelet will fit gen 116710 case?


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Anyone know if the ARF bracelet will fit gen 116710 case?


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I think the chances are pretty good. I put an ARF oyster on my gen 16710, it fit like a glove. This was before the ARF GMT bracelet was out.

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Rolex has done some weird stuff recently with springbar diameters and tip sizes, I think at least partly to made it harder to swap between oyster and jubilee on the 126710s. Interesting info here

https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...gmt-3186-clone-movement?p=8877240#post8877240

post # 575, scroll right to see whole table
 
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I think the chances are pretty good. I put an ARF oyster on my gen 16710, it fit like a glove. This was before the ARF GMT bracelet was out.

15391192269581.jpg


Rolex has done some weird stuff recently with springbar diameters and tip sizes, I think at least partly to made it harder to swap between oyster and jubilee on the 126710s. Interesting info here

post # 575, scroll right to see whole table

You’re the man! Thank you. 16710 looks great!


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I wish in real life that the 116710 had GMT-Master printed in white and had a red GMT hand.

Then a guy could swap between the LN, BRNR and the BLRO bezels all on the same watch. Yes I know the BRNR should have a blue GTM had but I could live with that.
If the GMT hand was blue it would be wrong but still go with the blue and red bezel of the BLRO as well as the proper red GMT hand does. But I think a blue GMT hand on the LN would be odd. Red would look OK to me.

OK, well back to reality...
 
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I just received my ARF 116710LN just 10 minutes ago and it is already broken LOL

So I was setting the time to get to the nearest hour and I put the crown back and pulled it out to the second position to set the date. And the datewheel got stuck and now the hour hand is slipping like mad!!



Now I know the VR3185 is still the better movement.
 
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bootlegboy That sucks. Sorry!

I was thinking of ordering the same watch just to get one on my wrist now and I love the ARF bracelet/quality.

I'm sure the experts will chime in with who/what parts/cost to fix it.


I ordered a rep 216570 polar ICHS because I didn't want to have to worry. TD sent me a CHS by mistake and it broke day one too. These GMTs are like paying Russian roulette.
 
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I received mine today. The movement seems extremely cheap and unstable. The ring numbers have good engravings but are too white. The GMT has too large incisions to have the wrong paint, it is seen too especially on black. The characters of the date are not bad in mine but the magnification of the cyclops is wrong. I expected more quality.