I have zf v2 15500, can i put a clone movement in my v2 miyota movement? is the case the same..will it fit to my V2? thanks
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APSF and ZF Royal Oak 15500 w 4302 clone caliber
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You would have to change the whole movement. It should be possible but not without some mods (movement holder etc.)
IMO if you want the clone movement you should think about selling your Miyota and just buy a new one with the 4302 clone. Should be easier and cheaper (regarding the outcome) if your watch is not modded/frankend
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Unpopular opinion: the Miyota 9015 is a "premium automatic movement" made in Japan. While it's not a fancy movement, it's a genuine workhorse, just like a Seiko (also from Japan) and on a closed caseback watch I would have no problem with keeping it, or replacing it with an identical one should the need ever arise.
Based on my personal philosophy, I take a GEN ETA or Sellita over a rep anything movement any day of the week, twice on Sundays. For that reason, I prefer closed caseback watches in general.
Based on my personal philosophy, I take a GEN ETA or Sellita over a rep anything movement any day of the week, twice on Sundays. For that reason, I prefer closed caseback watches in general.
The only problem with my miyota movement is the rotor is to loud when spinning and i want a quick date change. But miyota is a workhorse movement very reliable. thanks for the advice, i’ll just sell it and buy a V3.
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Oh I agree. Either do the clone movement very well or stick with a reliable movement as long as it doesn't affect the dimensions of the watch.
The "problem" is that almost all premium watches now have a display caseback, APs included, so naturally the "best" version of an RO or ROO won't have a decorated Miyota, but a replica movement. It's a very personal decision which one works better for one's personal circumstances.
Me, being a simple-minded person, don't really care about rotor noise, nor do I sweat blood and tears when my watch doesn't exactly change the date on midnight as I'm usually in my PJs at that time and my watches are in their bed as well. Other people have higher standards, for sure.
On that note, I think the "latest RO with closed caseback is the 15703, and that's still available from the TDs with a Miyota 9015. In fact, Trusty has it on sale for $348 right now:
Me, being a simple-minded person, don't really care about rotor noise, nor do I sweat blood and tears when my watch doesn't exactly change the date on midnight as I'm usually in my PJs at that time and my watches are in their bed as well. Other people have higher standards, for sure.
On that note, I think the "latest RO with closed caseback is the 15703, and that's still available from the TDs with a Miyota 9015. In fact, Trusty has it on sale for $348 right now:
AP0845 - Royal Oak Offshore Diver 15703 SS/RU Black APSF MY9015 [AP0845] - $348.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop
Trusty Time Watch AP0845 - Royal Oak Offshore Diver 15703 SS/RU Black APSF MY9015 [AP0845] - APSF Factory Edition AP Royal Oak Diver 15703 MOVEMENT: Platinum Plated Japanese Miyota 9015 24J Automatic CASE DIAMETER: 42mm THICKNESS: 14mm DIAL COLOR: Black Checkered Dial with Stick Markers (With...
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Does anybody have an idea of how the sizing of a 15500 would fit vs a 15202? Thickness aside, is the case that much bigger?
The 15500 is quite a big watch. Compared to the 15202 it is significantly bigger and also wears bigger than its 41mm case size.
Here you can see a side to side comparison where the difference in size is obvious:
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15202/16202 on my wrist vs a 15500. My wrist is 6.9" and I can rock either. I like how they both feel because the 15202/16202 is much thinner and just feels more slick, but the 15500 feels "substantial".
The 15500 is quite a big watch. Compared to the 15202 it is significantly bigger and also wears bigger than its 41mm case size.
Here you can see a side to side comparison where the difference in size is obvious:
15202/16202 on my wrist vs a 15500. My wrist is 6.9" and I can rock either. I like how they both feel because the 15202/16202 is much thinner and just feels more slick, but the 15500 feels "substantial".
Thanks guys. I have a smaller wrist, maybe 6.3, but on the flat side. This is my 15202..... should I even consider trying a 15500? Or stick with this 202?
Thanks guys. I have a smaller wrist, maybe 6.3, but on the flat side. This is my 15202..... should I even consider trying a 15500? Or stick with this 202?
Your 15202 fits perfectly I would say.
But I think you could also rock a 15500, if you like bigger watches.
Love the 15202. But I like the modern feel of the 15500 and just nitpicking but I feel like the 15202 has some flaws with the dial.
Thankfully we have choices, but trying to figure out which I want for my daily. Especially since my gen needs to go into service.
I do have one, actually about to post it up. Love the quality and modern-ness of the 15450, but feel its a bit small for me. Maybe a blue dial 15450 is the sweet spot (maybe blue dial feels bigger?) but I should at least try a 15500 and see what's what. I do hear the 15500 wears similar to a 15202 due to actually a shorter overall length from lug to lug, but it is the dial/bezel and thickness that kind of make it look like a much bigger watch
Regardless will hang onto the 15202 until I figure this out, as the XF v1 with the correct bezel screws and bracelet will be near impossible to find again. I just feel that it not quite NWBIG, with the mismatch lume and the caseback (movement) is not really accurate to gen. Silly things to think about overall, but again it is good to have choices!
If the 15450 feels too small for you, imo the only logical step would be to go for the 15500. They are really great reps, especially with the clone movement and the just updated dial also looks pretty good.
I absolutely agree with you, despite the small flaws the XF is a rarity and I also would not sell that one ever.
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Thanks- willing to give it a shot, and if the 15202 ends up being the worst case for me, I am good to go (and very blessed!)
Just curious- but has the 15510 been properly updated yet? I hear they wear a bit smaller, and I know the versions I have seen were did not have the updated bracelet or seconds hand (not sure about case!)
Kinda feel foolish asking- but 54 pages and I am going back as much as I can and not sure if ZF or APSF is the one to get... I am going after the blue dial and might just go ahead with getting one from a TD to try out. If it does not work out, I can always offer it on the classifieds.
Although through my research looks like the 15510 was not updated, still has wrong bracelet which is a shame.
