APSF and ZF Royal Oak 15500 w 4302 clone caliber

[joeyc]

 

[Rantanplan]

If you were a diver, you'd be wearing a diving computer. I doubt any pro divers use swiss diving watches anymore. Maybe as a back up, but diving computers are the norm, as they give you a lot more information, better readibility etc. etc.

A very nice Comparison of all available 15500 right now:

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Fucking great work !!!

 

[peterpl]

So are any one of you guys silencing the rotor? I must say the rotor on the APSF 15500 is quite noisy.

 

[steve_theonewatches]

So are any one of you guys silencing the rotor? I must say the rotor on the APSF 15500 is quite noisy.

I carefully compared the rotor sound of ZF and APS and it does sound a bit loud, both factories are about the same, so you can be sure that this is a noise defect in the 4302 movement itself. But it is not really that bad, it is a louder sound only when you hit the case harder.

 

[peterpl]

I carefully compared the rotor sound of ZF and APS and it does sound a bit loud, both factories are about the same, so you can be sure that this is a noise defect in the 4302 movement itself. But it is not really that bad, it is a louder sound only when you hit the case harder.

Yes I think the noise is common across both ZF and APSF. Daily wear its not so bad. I think its just noisy when you move the watch harder as you say then the rotor can be quite loud when it spins.

 

[peterpl]

Quick Q regarding this APSF clone 4302 movement. My watch stopped this morning after being on the winder and wearing it for 1 day which makes me believe that the TPD and direction on my winder was set to the minimum it required to just keep it ticking.

What is the winding direction of this movement and what is the TPD required when on the winder?

 

[legend]

Quick Q regarding this APSF clone 4302 movement. My watch stopped this morning after being on the winder and wearing it for 1 day which makes me believe that the TPD and direction on my winder was set to the minimum it required to just keep it ticking.

What is the winding direction of this movement and what is the TPD required when on the winder?

The rep movements, especially clone ones, will not stand up to consistent automatic winding. I’ll advocate you don’t leave it in the winder. It’s apt to cause more harm than good.
But this is a bi-directional winding movement if you’re curious and TPD should be 800.

 

[ernien]

Looks like the updated APSF black dial is starting to become available, looks pretty good!

 

[speedywombat]

Looks like the updated APSF black dial is starting to become available, looks pretty good!

Looks good! Seems that they messed up the "G" in "PIGUET" though? Became way too curved.

 

[lino]

My zf with new dial

 

[speedywombat]

My zf with new dial

Seems a lot better than the previous gen ZF, but what bewilders me is that this has the same issue as the new APSF one in the letter "G". Almost like they both use the same dial source or something.

 

[legend]

Seems a lot better than the previous gen ZF, but what bewilders me is that this has the same issue as the new APSF one in the letter "G". Almost like they both use the same dial source or something.

Doesn’t actually matter in real life. These are replicas and if the dial is to be analysed at individual lettering level, then a lot more details are off. It’s a $500 rep, and for the price, it’s a lot of watch.
If you expect every letter and detail to be perfect than get the gen and all the problems are instantly solved.

 

[germanynrw]

My zf with new dial

Looks great tbh‘

 

[speedywombat]

Doesn’t actually matter in real life. These are replicas and if the dial is to be analysed at individual lettering level, then a lot more details are off. It’s a $500 rep, and for the price, it’s a lot of watch.
If you expect every letter and detail to be perfect than get the gen and all the problems are instantly solved.

Yeah, I'll still get them most likely since it's part of my hobby and well within the tolerance of being $500 reps, but I do find the bent "G" to be interesting since it is common now in both APSF and ZF. Makes me think APSF and ZF might source their dials from the same supplier.

 

[SOLEX]

My zf with new dial

Looks great!

You may get better photos outside, and zoom out a bit. That should show the color nicely, as well as the other details within the dial, but overall I give a thumbs up

 

[ernien]

Here’s QC’s showing all four of the updated APSF 15500 dials. The new blue looks pretty dark.

 

[samsoniteman]

Here’s QC’s showing all four of the updated APSF 15500 dials. The new blue looks pretty dark.

Very nice! I love that grey dial!

 

[speedywombat]

Here’s QC’s showing all four of the updated APSF 15500 dials. The new blue looks pretty dark.

From which TDs? Wonder if they already carry them.

 

[Fatal error]

I have v3 ZF 15500 blue and I love it

 

[ernien]

From which TDs? Wonder if they already carry them.

These QC pics are from Geektime (TD at Repgeek but not here). The updated white has been around for months but the other 3 updated dials just started appearing on his site in the last couple weeks.