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Another Moonswatch metal case project

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I haven’t seen / gotten their Mercury, but they’ve been good about sending QCs when asked!

Their Neptune casing is just as incorrect as everyone else’s unfortunately, I’ve not found any vendors that come remotely close to gen, and I looked hard. It’s even more frustrating since they all seem to get the case color right for the Super Blue Moon, and it should be the same case!

This was their QC for the Neptune:

Yeah the blue on the case is way off from genuine but this is the version that has a great dial. Will place an order from this seller. So many generations of these reps which got worse and worse with the speedmaster text in bold and the moonswatch script in the incorrect font!
 

JohnDoes

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Guys what's your opinion on using this omega seamaster quartz from dhgate to put a moonsswatch dial in it?

Dhgate Omega seamaster quartz link

My other option is geting one of those v63 cases from ali x. I will however in either way buy stents and a pe50 stem.
 

JohnDoes

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Guys what's your opinion on using this omega seamaster quartz from dhgate to put a moonsswatch dial in it?

Dhgate Omega seamaster quartz link

My other option is geting one of those v63 cases from ali x. I will however in either way buy stents and a pe50 stem.
Hmm on second thought the price is roughly the same as the v63 ali x case either way so might aswell just go with that. But my thought was i could use the seamaster dial and quartz movement in my moonsswatch haha to have two working watches. Although no real way of seeing the quality of that watch. I have contacted the seller i'll see what he say too.
 

JohnDoes

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I have a future thought if i really like this watch for the future.

To buy this jason007 clone of a speedmaster: Jason007 speedmaster link

Then pick up a genuine moonsswatch from chrono24

And trying to modify an automatic movement to fit the moonsswatch dial, i don't care if the other things won't work and i'll try and solve the modifications in some way. If people were able to go to the moon i should be able to convert an automatic movement to work.
 

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I have a future thought if i really like this watch for the future.

To buy this jason007 clone of a speedmaster: Jason007 speedmaster link

Then pick up a genuine moonsswatch from chrono24

And trying to modify an automatic movement to fit the moonsswatch dial, i don't care if the other things won't work and i'll try and solve the modifications in some way. If people were able to go to the moon i should be able to convert an automatic movement to work.
I have done a few of the Jason007 Speedys for myself w/ Moonswatch internals. They work great. You just need a new stem and some heatshrink to extend the pushers. However...

You are not going to modify an automatic movement to fit the Moonswatch dial. Subdial spacing is ALWAYS a pain, and one of the reasons no good Speedy rep exists. Just use the inbuilt Sunon PE50. It is a moonswatch after all!
 

DapperDoctorHolmes

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Guys what's your opinion on using this omega seamaster quartz from dhgate to put a moonsswatch dial in it?

Dhgate Omega seamaster quartz link

My other option is geting one of those v63 cases from ali x. I will however in either way buy stents and a pe50 stem.
Hard to say since there're no image reviews of the actual product, but that appears to be the same case as the Lige Chronograph ($15 Speedmaster homage on AliX) - The bezel is flat with the case rather than bowled with an inner groove, the case is almost definitely chromed alloy rather than stainless steel, and I believe the strap width is 22mm rather than the standard 20mm.

It should be a lot slimmer than the standard VK63 cases on Ali though if you don't mind the incorrect bezel shape (those average around 15.5mm, Pagani Design's is 14.2mm, the gen is 13mm, and the Lige is listed around 10mm but might be a bit thicker).

Super curious what movement that thing is using / if those subdials actually look like that or actually function, since their spacing is close to a genuine Speedmaster which none of the cheap movements I've seen can mimic (if you look at the Pagani or any other VK63 movement the subdials are noticeably spaced further apart).

Basically that one's a whole lotta question marks!
 
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DapperDoctorHolmes

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I have done a few of the Jason007 Speedys for myself w/ Moonswatch internals. They work great. You just need a new stem and some heatshrink to extend the pushers. However...

You are not going to modify an automatic movement to fit the Moonswatch dial. Subdial spacing is ALWAYS a pain, and one of the reasons no good Speedy rep exists. Just use the inbuilt Sunon PE50. It is a moonswatch after all!
Jason Speedys are great for the rep bracelet and caseback - I've heard of some folks having success ordering those direct from Jason without the actual case or movement and saving some money there which is cool. The case itself I believe is just as chonky as the other AliX blanks though, so if accuracy and comfort are your true endgoals then I'd lean more toward picking up a Pagani or Watchdives for the case itself.
 

JohnDoes

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I have done a few of the Jason007 Speedys for myself w/ Moonswatch internals. They work great. You just need a new stem and some heatshrink to extend the pushers. However...

You are not going to modify an automatic movement to fit the Moonswatch dial. Subdial spacing is ALWAYS a pain, and one of the reasons no good Speedy rep exists. Just use the inbuilt Sunon PE50. It is a moonswatch after all!
Roger that, i trust your expertise and i will just forget about my dream of an automatic then hehe. Allright thanks about the Jason i will think about if i'll go for that or a v63 ali x then.
Hard to say since there're no image reviews of the actual product, but that appears to be the same case as the Lige Chronograph ($15 Speedmaster homage on AliX) - The bezel is flat with the case rather than bowled with an inner groove, the case is almost definitely chromed alloy rather than stainless steel, and I believe the strap width is 22mm rather than the standard 20mm.

It should be a lot slimmer than the standard VK63 cases on Ali though if you don't mind the incorrect bezel shape (those average around 15.5mm, Pagani Design's is 14.2mm, the gen is 13mm, and the Lige is listed around 10mm but might be a bit thicker).

Super curious what movement that thing is using / if those subdials actually look like that or actually function, since their spacing is close to a genuine Speedmaster which none of the cheap movements I've seen can mimic (if you look at the Pagani or any other VK63 movement the subdials are noticeably spaced further apart).

Basically that one's a whole lotta question marks!
Hmm yeah when you put it like that it seems like it's just poor quality and i'm better off just buying a v63 case then i guess.
Jason Speedys are great for the rep bracelet and caseback - I've heard of some folks having success ordering those direct from Jason without the actual case or movement and saving some money there which is cool. The case itself I believe is just as chonky as the other AliX blanks though, so if accuracy and comfort are your true endgoals then I'd lean more toward picking up a Pagani or Watchdives for the case itself.
Mm that's really why i wanted it... the caseback and bracelet. Thank you guys for your insight it's very valueable.

I will make sure to post my finished moonswatch here later for you guys to witness, judge =)

Have a good one guys and thanks again for your help
 

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Guys what's your opinion on using this omega seamaster quartz from dhgate to put a moonsswatch dial in it?

Dhgate
Pretty happy wuth how this one came out




Customized endlinks…painful work

Omega seamaster quartz link

My other option is geting one of those v63 cases from ali x. I will however in either way buy stents and a pe50 stem.

Despite the case itself being shit and unbranded crown…
the dial and hands are pretty good. The subdial spacing is nice

If you drop this in a Pagani or a watchdives, change the crown, you have a very good rep that’s arguably better than what the TDs offer (albeit it being a mecaquartz)
 
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Despite the case itself being shit and unbranded crown…
the dial and hands are pretty good. The subdial spacing is nice

If you drop this in a Pagani or a watchdives, change the crown, you have a very good rep that’s arguably better than what the TDs offer (albeit it being a mecaquartz)
Are the subdials actually functional? What movement does it use to get that close to gen subdial spacing?
 

JohnDoes

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Pretty happy wuth how this one came out




Customized endlinks…painful work
Nice
Despite the case itself being shit and unbranded crown…
the dial and hands are pretty good. The subdial spacing is nice

If you drop this in a Pagani or a watchdives, change the crown, you have a very good rep that’s arguably better than what the TDs offer (albeit it being a mecaquartz)
Yes i decided to get a watch from jason007 and then buy a moonswatch from qq. But i guess since i was going to get a genuine moonswatch later having a pagani i could actually view it as a genuine yet modified watch ^^ And i'll just order that 20$ speedmaster to have a wear n tear backup for my other dial. But i think i'm gunne wanna buy more paganis and other dhgate moonswatches with box to just have a collection of them later although i want at least one to be from a genuine moonswatch the others i don't care about.

Seems like a good plan thanks for all you guys experience helps me alot =)
 
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JohnDoes

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Or maybe i'll just buy a jason i can't decide, i'll see on the 25th ^^ I guess my photo of it will reveal what i did ^^
 

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Pretty happy wuth how this one came out

Customized endlinks…painful work
I did a similar project, so I know how hard this is to do...

If you try to put a Jason007 Style Bracelet on a Pagani Case, the End Links will be very loose.
My brother was able to machine a pair of Pagani End Links so I could attach the Jason007 Speedmaster Style Bracelet. He also had to drill the Center Links so the Spring Bars would fit. Luckily he has a Milling Machine and the skills to do this type of work.


 

DapperDoctorHolmes

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I did a similar project, so I know how hard this is to do...

If you try to put a Jason007 Style Bracelet on a Pagani Case, the End Links will be very loose.
My brother was able to machine a pair of Pagani End Links so I could attach the Jason007 Speedmaster Style Bracelet. He also had to drill the Center Links so the Spring Bars would fit. Luckily he has a Milling Machine and the skills to do this type of work.


Ah yeah for my Jason bracelet on the Pagani case it took a combination of thicker spring bars (I think I did 2mm?) and then using aluminum foil / aluminum foil tape to fill / stuff the gap underneath between the bottom part of the bracket and the case / caseback, and now it doesn’t rotate or gap on top.
 

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Despite the case itself being shit and unbranded crown…
the dial and hands are pretty good. The subdial spacing is nice

If you drop this in a Pagani or a watchdives, change the crown, you have a very good rep that’s arguably better than what the TDs offer (albeit it being a mecaquartz)
My best results have been jason caseback, pagani case (caus jasons is poor), and swap the crown stem and crown with a cheap knockoff crown (i didnt check if the jason crown would fit with proper crown stem tbh). Also i swapped crystal for hesalite cheapie high dome

still has problem of pagani bezel, but that bothered me less than jason case.
 

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My best results have been jason caseback, pagani case (caus jasons is poor), and swap the crown stem and crown with a cheap knockoff crown (i didnt check if the jason crown would fit with proper crown stem tbh). Also i swapped crystal for hesalite cheapie high dome

still has problem of pagani bezel, but that bothered me less than jason case.

Is the crystal 33mm ?