No More Time Bombs, VRF just released 1st fully cloned 3186 and 116710LN

[greekgod]

Sorry little left behind on this development..Does the AF have a fully clone moment as well??

 

[jcher]

Sorry little left behind on this development..Does the AF have a fully clone moment as well??

The nomenclature is a bit strange, the TD are listing the movements as follow: an A3186 fro the VRF and a SH3186 for ARF. it seems that both movement are clones, just like the SH3135 and supports reverse date through fast jumping hour hand.

 

[mari115]

look at this pic from Trusty the surface looks terrible!

ARF insert is WAAAAAAY better than the VRF, i don't understand why one would go for the VRF over the ARF (if both movements work nicely and it's just a matter of finish, arf should be a no brainer)

 

[greekgod]

The nomenclature is a bit strange, the TD are listing the movements as follow: an A3186 fro the VRF and a SH3186 for ARF. it seems that both movement are clones, just like the SH3135 and supports reverse date through fast jumping hour hand.

Thank you very much..but we dont know if the A3186 and the SH3186 are the exact same movement made by the same factory?

 

[JG0523]

I think most people automatically assumed that the VRF has a 3186 clone that would be of the same great quality as the VR3135. We won't know how good the clone 3186 movement is until members actually get the VRF and do a teardown.

 

[Vvvlllooo]

I think most people automatically assumed that the VRF has a 3186 clone that would be of the same great quality as the VR3135. We won't know how good the clone 3186 movement is until members actually get the VRF and do a teardown.

This..^^^^. Agreed..a step towards the right position in building a clone but we have to wait. I saw a dealer even put “stable” in the movement description. Some of these dealers have no clue...I remember when they were selling V8 subs as V9. Interesting though

 

[BLNRBOI]

I recently got the GMF and now I definitely have to get this!

 

[Kmmas]

The other super clone movement (SA3186 from Noob) was a time bomb, so it had to be used very carefully, especially when changing the date.

These two new super clones movements (SH3186 from ARF and VR3186 from VRF) should be much more reliable and robust.

Prior to these releases, in order to get a reliable 1:1 movement, we had to spend more money, either buying a gen Rolex Caliber 3186 (approx. 2K USD/EUR) or adding some gen parts to an Asian 28xx clone movement.

Thanks for the explanation. I’m new into GMTs, so really understood from your explanation. However 1 thing I want to clear out. What’s the difference between the SH 3186 by ARF and VR 3186 by VRF. Why so much excitement over the VRF? Isn’t the SH3186 By ARF also a fully cloned 3186?

 

[Tobel]

Thanks for the explanation. I’m new into GMTs, so really understood from your explanation. However 1 thing I want to clear out. What’s the difference between the SH 3186 by ARF and VR 3186 by VRF. Why so much excitement over the VRF? Isn’t the SH3186 By ARF also a fully cloned 3186?

Yes it is. The reason there's more excitement for the vr3186 is that VRF released a very good VR3135 so there's expectations that their VR3186 will also be great. But so far no one knows

 

[Kmmas]

Holy Batm... Well, I'll stop it there. I'm just about to order a GMF Batman ICHS, but I'm seriously thinking of waiting a bit to see how this goes.

I guess the million dollar question is how is the hour hand setting done, so I'll probably wait until good old Rob dissects these two new movements and order accordingly.

In the exact same boat.

 

[Kmmas]

VRF just released a batman too. I think that deserves a separate thread but strange enough don’t see one

 

[RiffRalf]

VRF just released a batman too. I think that deserves a separate thread but strange enough don’t see one

Tee hee!! Now for a root beer!!

 

[frankfrankfrank]

The biggest questions still up in the air – reliability, bracelet fitting, get part fitting, etc. – will exist in both LN and batman. We still aren't getting QC much less in hand reviews, so for me there is no question I have that a separate thread for Batman could answer. If we get green lights for some/any of the issues brought up in this thread, then I'd be interested in dissecting the different color ways.

 

[RiffRalf]

In the exact same boat.

that boat is getting full ....

 

[AMGwolf]

Looks sweet... I’m about to just pull the trigger.. kinda want to wait for a review or two

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[PETROLHE4D]

Does this VRF and ARF have better rehaut than noob?


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[Dissemination]

VRF just released a batman too. I think that deserves a separate thread but strange enough don’t see one

Not much to see yet but a thread was just started yesterday https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/rolex-tudor-replicas/8300024-vrf-116710blnr-batman

 

[KJ2020]

ARF insert is WAAAAAAY better than the VRF, i don't understand why one would go for the VRF over the ARF (if both movements work nicely and it's just a matter of finish, arf should be a no brainer)

Not to mention VRF's saw tooth rehaut ledge

 

[Kmmas]

How long ago was the ARF with SH 3186 released? Is there a thread on that too? I searched for it but couldn’t find it. IF there is, can someone be kind enough to post the link.
and as for robustness and reliability of the movement the ARF SH 3186 & VRF VR 3186 would be the same right?

 

[M_Hall]

The case does look like it was machined using a bread knife but on the plus side the crystal and date wheel look very good.


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