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I have not followed this much, did this occur in a gated community ?
 

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A forensic expert discovered more than 600 items deleted on Trayvon’s cell phone, including texts and photos between Trayvon and other people with specific references to criminal activity — particularly fighting, drugs, and firearms.

Everyone in the courtroom likely understood which “someone†deleted the evidence, but attorneys and Judge Nelson were very careful not to name Martin....

Most troubling, Conner found multiple conversations — between four and six — where Trayvon discussed attempting to buy black-market guns.

The guns Martin discussed acquiring included a Smith & Wesson Sigma pistol and a .38 Special revolver. One conversation showed Martin trying to sell a .22 revolver, suggesting he was already in possession of it.

One of the participants in one of the gun conversations was a Fulton, possibly a relative on his mother’s side. All of these conversations took place immediately in the days and weeks before Trayvon Martin left Miami for Sanford.

The reason these conversations were hidden until recently is that the deleted texts were created by a password-protected hidden app designed to beat police surveillance by hiding data and data types as different kinds of files than what the police would be looking for.

The state hid this evidence until right before the beginning of the trial, when the prosecution’s Wesley White came forward to present testimony that the state was hiding and may have destroyed evidence. The defense has had no time to recover this data and to depose every witness.

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Yes, there was some rioting. It's disgusting to me that Race Baiting Opportunists are trying to turn Trayvon into some sort of martyr.

Something that you won't hear on the news is that Trayvon Martin's parents have settled a wrongful-death claim for an amount thought to be more than $1 million against the homeowners association of the Sanford subdivision where their teenage son was killed.


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IMHO, Zimmerman ultimately did society a favor based on the history and predilections of this gangsta wannabe. With billions of people on this planet, I'm not going to miss this one.

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^^^^ Where did you dream this scenario from ? Mr Wild Assumptions. Mall Cop stated they were on the grass. His defense team said concrete. Go back to the drawing board with your story.


It was a hypothetical question....one that I noticed you didn't answer....not that you're required to.
 

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A final note.

These are the facts:

1. A young man was killed in an altercation with an armed man.

2. The armed man was arrested and charged with second degree murder.

3. After a trial and the presentation of available evidence the armed man was found not guilty by a jury of his peers.

That's all....have fun.
 

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My last remark is a proverb that occurs to me in this case: "When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like nail."

tommy - out. Peace.
 

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Thinkbachs, can you now post the same information on Zimmerman. His past , his arrests and all the allegations against him. Lets see how " fair and balanced " you are.
 

TESLA760

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A final note.

These are the facts:

1. A young man was killed in an altercation with an armed man.

2. The armed man was arrested and charged with second degree murder.

3. After a trial and the presentation of available evidence the armed man was found not guilty by a jury of his peers.

That's all....have fun.


How come no one thought this way when OJ was acquitted ?
 

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Fair and Balanced.... :)

Thinkbachs, can you now post the same information on Zimmerman. His past , his arrests and all the allegations against him. Lets see how " fair and balanced " you are.

When George Zimmerman was a little boy he couldn’t let a good deed pass undone. He couldn’t stand by while a neighbor unloaded groceries without offering to help. He couldn’t watch while his father, wounded in the Korean War, limped as he cut the front lawn without trying to take over.
Of all the lessons of his childhood the one that buried itself most deeply in ‘little Georgie’s’ heart was that helping was his duty.

It took him from the altar of his local church to the sidewalk of a Florida neighbourhood, with a gun in his hand and Trayvon Martin in his sights.


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No Going Back: George Zimmerman glances towards the gallery during his high profile trial in Seminole Circuit Court, Florida

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Doing His Duty? Trayvon Martin, left, and George Zimmerman, right, pictured at 17 - the age Martin was when he died

On 26 February 2012 the 29-year-old insurance underwriter put a bullet in 17-year-old Trayvon Martin’s chest and shot him dead. Zimmerman was swiftly painted a hate-fueled racist who profiled the innocent black man when he saw him in his neighborhood and hunted him down.

But the truth, as uncovered by MailOnline, is that Zimmerman is a man whose childhood desire to help grew into a frustrated adult ambition that he couldn’t fulfill. Instead, this thwarted sense of duty found expression in the most devastating way.

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'Little Georgie,' age 6, couldn't let a good deed pass undone

Zimmerman was born in Manassas, Virginia to Robert and Gladys Zimmerman. He was the third of four siblings, a younger brother to Robert and Dawn, with sister, Grace, the baby of the family.

Rev George W Hall Sr and his wife Kay lived across the street from the Zimmerman’s in a quiet neighbourhood of the town favoured by forces families as an easy commute to the nearby Air Force Base and Marine Base and FBI training base of Quantico.

Rev Hall told MailOnline: ‘They were a warm and friendly family. We look after each other in this neighbourhood and they were no different.

‘George was well trained and very polite, very thoughtful, very considerate. That’s the way they were taught to be.’

George’s father, Robert Sr was a military veteran who had served in the Korean War and worked as a Virginia court magistrate. His Peruvian mother, Gladys, was a deputy clerk of court and, Rev Hall said, licensed to perform marriages.

‘They would often invite the bride and groom back to their house for a reception afterwards,’ he said. ‘That’s the sort of people they were. We would see brides arriving in their beautiful dresses and hear people chatting in the backyard.’


The Zimmerman home was, according to those who know them best, a place where all were welcome but George and his siblings were raised to be devoutly religious and were strictly disciplined.

George’s maternal grandmother lived with the family and was, according to one, ‘the real lynchpin’ of the household.

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Devout and Disciplinarian: Zimmerman's mother Gladys, left, and father Robert, right, at their son's trial

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Devout and Loving: The Zimmerman's family home in Manassas, Virginia where George and his siblings were raised to value duty above all else

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Sixteen-year-old Zimmerman pictured at Osbourn High School, Manassas: a quiet student, prone to worry

Dramatic moment jury acquits George Zimmerman of Trayvon Martin...

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One close family friend who asked not to be named recalled the family’s daily routine: ‘Breakfast was always a rush with everybody going off to school and work but every evening they would sit down to dinner together.
‘There was always grace before dinner and evening prayers and the children were all taught that it was their duty to help others, to look after their neighbor and to serve the community.’

George and his siblings attended Grace E Metz Middle School before going on to Osborn High School.

Brian Brockman, 29, was a classmate at both and recalled: ‘George was fairly quiet really. He wasn’t part of any particular group – he wasn’t a jock or a nerd. He was middle of the road, average. A nice enough guy but not someone who really stood out.’

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Age 7 Zimmerman was an altar boy at the local Roman Catholic Church, a role he continued until he was 17

From the age of seven Zimmerman was an altar boy at Manassas’s Roman Catholic All Saints Church.

Age 14 he joined the Young Marines after-school club. Another close friend who asked not to be named for fear of retribution in the aftermath of the case said: ‘For a while that’s what he was all about. He wanted to go into the military – it’s not an unusual thing for a teenage boy but he was really focused.’

He polished his boots nightly.

But Zimmerman’s ambitions outstripped his abilities academically. He struggled in maths and science and, most surprisingly given the bilingual household in which he was raised, his Spanish grades were low.

Things came more easily to his older brother Robert – he smiled more quickly and had a lighter nature. One year above Zimmerman at school he was, among other things, on the Wrestling Team, Spanish Club, Band, Show Choir and student’s Principal Advisory committee.

George joined only one school group – the Future Business Leaders of America, which met monthly.

When he graduated he told friends he was going to move to Florida to work with his godfather in a ‘million dollar business.’


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Unfulfilled Ambitions: Zimmerman, left, jokes with an Osbourn High School friend - he told friends he was moving to Florida to work at a million dollar business


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Zimmerman and his three siblings all attended Osbourn High School in Manassas, Virginia before moving to Florida in 2001

Yet by the time the Zimmerman family moved from Manassas to Florida in 2001, George had already had his first brush with the law.

In May that year he was the victim of a minor assault. The record, seen by MailOnline, gives little detail as both George and his aggressor were juvenile but no weapons were involved and no serious injury sustained.

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An Earnest Little Boy: Keen to help, conscious of the need to do good, Zimmerman at nine was a conscientious, quiet child

The matter went no further but the tussle, such as it was, speaks of a flutter of passion at odds with the George most people here in Manassas describe – a rather serious young man and almost placid in his constantly calm demeanour.

There is only a hint of what was to come in an observation of one very close family friend.
She admitted: ‘George could worry. Where some people might worry and do nothing he would step in, he would try to do something.’

He would try to help – to do his duty.

Friends from Manassas say they never saw George lose his temper. But in Florida the tension between George’s ambitions and his abilities became more marked.

At 18 he took a job at an insurance company and started taking evening classes to earn a license to sell insurance. He worked hard and in 2004 he set up an Allstate insurance satellite office with friend.

But the following year things started to go wrong.

His business failed and his personal life was marred by a broken engagement with salon worker Veronica Zuazo.

In July 2005 he was arrested and charged with resisting arrest and battery of an officer – something he strongly denies.

He agreed to take part in a pre-trial diversion program that included anger management classes and the charges were dropped.

The following month Zuazo filed a civil motion for a restraining order on the grounds of domestic violence. Among her claims were that Zimmerman had trailed her round her neighbourhood, checking up on her and that in a dispute that followed her dog had bitten him.

'George just wanted to serve his community in some way...He wanted to do good,' Rev George W Hall Sr

Zimmerman responded claiming Zuazo was the aggressor and that she clawed and scratched him.

He filed a counter order and both were granted by an Orange County judge who told the pair to keep away from each other for a year.

Zimmerman’s brother Robert had bought a house in Manassas that he rented out and the brothers would often return to visit their hometown.

Whenever they did, George would visit Rev Hall. He made no mention of his troubles in Florida, but instead focused on telling Rev Hall of his ambitions to be a police officer.

‘It was an ambition I had once shared,’ said Rev Hall, himself a Korean veteran. ‘But when I was looking to join you had to be a certain height and I wasn’t tall enough.
‘George just wanted to serve his community in

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Dreams of Service: By the time he was 15 Zimmerman was fixated on joining the Marines

some way. He wanted to do good being an officer meant everything to him.’

In 2007, George married Shellie Dean. They rented a townhouse in Retreat at Twin Lakes and though he had several jobs at times they were forced to file for unemployment benefit.

On one visit ‘home’ to Manassas, Zimmerman told Rev Hall that he wanted to enroll in ‘the Police Academy.’ He asked for a letter of recommendation.

According to Rev Hall: ‘It was the easiest thing I’ve ever done. I wouldn’t doubt George for a second.

‘I wrote the letter and checked off the parts of the application I had to.

‘Being a police officer was all that mattered to George. I really believe that.
'It's what he still wants. He'd reapply tomorrow if the authorities would allow it.'

Yet Zimmerman didn’t tell Rev Hall about his run-ins with the law. Zimmerman's 2009 application to Prince William County, Virginia, Police Department was rejected.

He completed a citizen’s police academy course but the 14-hour affair did not bring any law enforcement powers or qualifications.

In 2009 Zimmerman enrolled in Seminole State College. He took courses in criminal litigation and investigation, an introduction to Criminal Justice and Juvenile Delinquency.

He was doing his best to earn his way into the career that he wanted – the police force. But his grades were falling short.
At the time of the shooting he was on academic probation.

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Wrong Side of the Law? Zimmerman walks through Sanford Police Station on the night of the shooting, 26 February 2012


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Seminole State College, Florida: Zimmerman struggled to maintain his grades as a student here and was on academic probation at the time of the shooting

Yet with the same intensity of the teenage boy who dreamt of being a Marine and polished his boots nightly, Zimmerman monitored his neighbourhood with something bordering on obsession.

Though nobody asked it of him that was the way he was raised – to do his duty and to see duty where others might not.

Between August 2004 and February 2012 he called the police at least 46 times.

The calls, logged in the case evidence documents, show an escalating level of anxiety.
Zimmerman was increasingly taking it on himself to monitor and even prevent crime.

He reported garage doors left open, kids behaving raucously around a swimming pool, stray dogs and cars, and ultimately youths, he didn’t recognize and felt had no business in the neighbourhood.

His friends from Manassas describe a calm, kind, and gentle man.

But this log of calls speaks of something different.

It speaks of concern tipping into anxiety.

Zimmerman's desire to help was tipping into a frustrated need to 'do good.'

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Lethal: Zimmerman urged neighbours to be pro-active in patrolling and protecting their neighbourhood. In 2009 he bought the gun he used to kill Trayvon

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Civil Unrest: Thousands gathered in the streets of Sanford, Florida last March demanding Zimmerman's arrest

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A young man campaigning for Zimmerman's arrest wears a bag of Skittles over his mouth: the candy was adopted as as symbol because Trayvon was on his way home from buying them when he was shot

When he took on the role of Captain of his Neighbourhood Watch – a group that he was instrumental in establishing with the co-operation of the local Sanford Police Department – he instructed members to be pro-active.

There had been a spate of break-ins in the area and following one daytime robbery Zimmerman emailed members urging them: ‘Do not become a victim…Please do not let others piggy back into the gate.

‘Additionally, whatever time you get home, please take a drive around the community and observe and report any suspicious persons, vehicles or activities.’
As Captain of the Neighbourhood Watch Zimmerman had finally found a badge to put on his desire to ‘do good.’

He also had a gun. He had completed his training in November 2009 and applied for a license for a concealed firearm that December.

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Thwarted Duty: Zimmerman makes his first court appearance last year

On 2 February Zimmerman placed his 45th call to 911. A black male wearing black leather jacket, black hat and printed trousers was loitering near a neighbor’s home.
He didn’t approach and the youth fled before the police arrived.

The following week Zimmerman’s grandmother, the lynchpin of the family, was taken into hospital. One week later his father, Robert, was admitted with a heart problem.

On the night he shot Trayvon, paramedics noted that among the medications Zimmerman used, he was taking the powerful sedative Tamazepan.

When Zimmerman called to report the presence of a suspicious youth in the area, the police dispatcher told him he didn’t need to follow. But he did.

He was failing classes. His grandmother and father were ill. He was concerned at the crimes in the neighborhood to the point where he was seeing trouble where none existed.

Everything that had gone before had brought him to this point. And everything that was happening right then propelled him forward.

He was doing his duty. The tragedy for Martin, and for Zimmerman too, is that this ‘kind, calm man’ from Manassas could no longer see where ‘doing good’ stopped and doing harm began.

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George Zimmerman has been accused of domestic violence, tussling with a police officer and for over-speeding.

In 2005, Zimmerman was arrested and charged with "resisting officer with violence" and "battery of law enforcement officer." Both these felonies are considered third-degree. Due to his desperate attempts, the charges were reduced to "resisting officer without violence" and then the only remaining charge was also completely waived off when he entered an alcohol education program.

In the same year (2005), Zimmerman's ex-fiance, Veronica Zuazo, filed a civil motion for a restraining order, alleging domestic violence. In retaliation, Zimmerman filed for a retraining order against Zuazo and both these claims were resolved with both restraining orders granted.

The next year, in 2006, Zimmerman was charged with speeding. However, that case was dismissed because the officer who charged him failed to show up at the court.
 

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The guy shot the kid. He got arrested. Went to trail. He won. The end get over it. Now the civil lawsuit starts and all the clowns will be there. I feel bad for the kids parents.
 

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Hitler finds out that Zimmerman goes free . --with dialogue of how Angela Corey felt

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Tried by the media for 18 months before the trial began. Found innocent by the legal system. Now the legal system will go on trial by the media for the month because it didn't get the verdict it was pulling for.

No one wins.
 

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A question for all of you:

You are on the ground getting pummeled by a 6 ft. tall, 160 lb., 17 year old.....he has already broken your nose with his punches....now he is slamming your head into the concrete sidewalk....you are armed....what do you do?




...you are being followed and harassed by a older male in a car, he proceeds to question your actions and provokes a fist fight...what do you do?

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Get real bro.
 

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Joseph A Banks is having a 3 for 1 sale this week :thumbsup:
 
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