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ZF RM55, new super clone movement

drstrangeph

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I'm sorry but did you literally not see the post I made 3 posts above you? No offense but this is why this forum is going to dogshit, people treat it like google without even reading any posts and require them to fucking be spoonfed

The one with TWM? It says: Vaucher clone movement (Non Free Sprung Movement)

And why do the price seems to be a secret and needs a PM to the dealer? Shouldn't it be transparent?
 

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The one with TWM? It says: Vaucher clone movement (Non Free Sprung Movement)

And why do the price seems to be a secret and needs a PM to the dealer? Shouldn't it be transparent?
Vendors are allowed to do what they want in their own subsection. If they want to keep the price to DMs only then it's their subsection. You don't like it you don't have to buy from them. Why don't you PM them?

You can ask them for the free sprung variant too.

Again. Why ask me, why ask this thread? Why not ask the literal guys who can build the watch for you? Why not do research? How do you think I learnt this stuff? Magic?
 
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Vendors are allowed to do what they want in their own subsection. If they want to keep the price to DMs only then it's their subsection. You don't like it you don't have to buy from them. Why don't you PM them?

You can ask them for the free sprung variant too.

Again. Why ask me, why ask this thread? Why not ask the literal guys who can build the watch for you? Why not do research? How do you think I learnt this stuff? Magic?

Okay thanks.
Back on the pricing, why do they have to make it a secret thou? lol.
 

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Okay thanks.
Back on the pricing, why do they have to make it a secret thou? lol.
I don't know I'm not TWM. My guess is that it's priced to order. Remeber illegal supply chains means maybe one month the imported carbon case costs $5k the next month it could cost $6k. That's just the way the replica game works.
 

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Prices fluctuate. Clients have specific needs. Suppliers change. It’s not a one size fits all scenario. Just PM.
I get that.. but on their thread they offer a specific modded watch which has a specific price. If they feel changing the price after a month they could just update it on their thread too.
 

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I don't know I'm not TWM. My guess is that it's priced to order. Remeber illegal supply chains means maybe one month the imported carbon case costs $5k the next month it could cost $6k. That's just the way the replica game works.
Got it for the price to order.. Like if it has precious metals and stones too.. Thanks for explaining. Appreciate it.
 

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Prices fluctuate. Clients have specific needs. Suppliers change. It’s not a one size fits all scenario. Just PM.
This 100% . There are many carbon suppliers jumping the bandwagon. Last year i visited a carbon factory in China (work related trip) that made cases and bezels for RM reps.

We had to give our phones to the security and needed to walk through security gates before entering the production hall. I have never seen so many advanced cnc machines. All drawings were on them and they were producing the 035 white ntpt and midcases (my guess being zf or sonic / t+).

They definitely made for BBR as i held the 027 bezel.

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There is any availability for large-scale production of the purple/pink 67-02 and the blue versions 51-01 or 52-03 for ZF or Sonic/T+? I've never seen one available. Are these special orders, and if so, what is the approximate price point?

I would appreciate any information you can provide here or via PM. Thank you!
 

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There's a good closeup on p.12 of this thread (reposted below). As you can see, the bridges are some sort of thick granular paint or adhesive. Other macro shots show that it's a little sparkly, almost like diamond dust. In any case, very different from the brushed steel look of the gen. That's why the ZF ribs don't become dark in certain light conditions like the gen - because it's some sort of silver paint/adhesive rather than reflective metal. But again, no one would notice in real life without a magnifying lens, unlike the case which doesn't have the shimmering carbon of the gen (and to some extent previous ZF NTPT cases) and can be easily spotted by anyone that's seen even a picture of gen NTPT.

So I stand by my thesis - if you're looking for an homage to RM, or something that will fool 99.9% of the population - save $500 and get the BBR. If you want a watch that will fool the other .1% of the population, save up and pay $15-20k for CNC case and free sprung Vaucher clone movement. The ZF in my mind falls in that weird middle area where it's somewhat expensive, yet still an obvious fake to anyone that knows a thing or two about RM watches.

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Isn't that a preproduction marketing photo? Venom's watch upthread is similarly high-res and there's no paint on those bridges, it's pretty clearly brushed in the production watches and is in every IRL photo I've seen so far.
 

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An Instagram dealer posted this pic a few hours ago. No mention of any factory or anything else
 

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Isn't that a preproduction marketing photo? Venom's watch upthread is similarly high-res and there's no paint on those bridges, it's pretty clearly brushed in the production watches and is in every IRL photo I've seen so far.
That picture was from Puretime. You could go to their website and take a look yourself. But let me do it for you:


Look at the 4th picture, a closeup of the front of the watch. There’s no brushing. The texture is grainy, just like in the earlier pic I posted. I don’t know which IRL close-up photos you’ve seen, but I’d recommend checking with dealer photos first.
 

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That picture was from Puretime. You could go to their website and take a look yourself. But let me do it for you:


Look at the 4th picture, a closeup of the front of the watch. There’s no brushing. The texture is grainy, just like in the earlier pic I posted. I don’t know which IRL close-up photos you’ve seen, but I’d recommend checking with dealer photos first.
Look at any picture of the actual watch like these: https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/zf-rm55-new-super-clone-movement.10978408/post-11823441
That's clearly brushed, and not particularly well. I don't know why you're such an ass about this paint crusade but have fun with that, I'm done.
 

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Look at any picture of the actual watch like these: https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/zf-rm55-new-super-clone-movement.10978408/post-11823441
That's clearly brushed, and not particularly well. I don't know why you're such an ass about this paint crusade but have fun with that, I'm done.
You should seriously go get your eyes checked out. @fletch512 is totally correct in what he’s assuming and seeing.
The ribs are clearly not brushed on the ones I’ve seen, have been posted so far and the one I’ve handled myself. I don’t know exactly what it is but it’s definitely not really brushed and looks more like paint as there can be some areas that look like it.

You might start to notice you’re getting to a point where you’re calling everyone who disagrees with your “expert” opinion an ass. I wonder how long it’s gonna take you to finally realise it’s you that’s the ass.