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AmazingLike DJ Khalid says....another one [emoji51]
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Genuine Movement Rolex Builds Thread
Bitten by the Daytona bug. If I want to build a 6263 on a Valjoux 72 movement. What is the best to do. Is a yuki dial recommended? And is a cartel case a good base for mods?
The best build specs without going crazy on gen parts:
Phong case ($1500)
Phong handset ($125)
MQ top grade dial ($600-$700)
GEN coronet for dial ($125)
Valjoux 72 donor ($1500)
Valjoux 72 servicing cost ($500)
Total: $4350
I can get it for a little cheaper because I go directly to the case and dial makers.
For the crazy ones (aka me included) the conversion to Rolex cal 727 is necessary. Phong charges $3500, I can do it for less but still a crap ton of $ - but then you'll have a 1:1 watch for a fraction of the gen
Conversion to 727 ($3500)
Total: $7850
Cartel case requires a lot of modding -essentially shaving it down slowly to fit a V72 and because it's not made for a v72 it has incorrect proportions and of poor quality. If you're already going with a $1500 movement (plus $500 to service it), then I wouldn't go cheap on the case - or anything else for that matter). If you're just using cartel movement (ST19) then its fine. I wouldn't put a V72 in there.
For the ballers, here's a 18k 6263 Paul newman just completed for a friend - solid gold [emoji51]
Pretty breathtaking. It takes a very special person and a very special setting to wear this. Reminds me of John Mayer who reportedly spent about $5,000,000 on Rolex watches, most of them bought via celebrity dealer Robert Maron. Turns out some of them were not born "exactly like that," but carried parts from other donors. Since all the parts were authentic, it's near impossible to truly authenticate such vintage watches.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ccused-selling-fake-Rolexes-admits-wrong.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...ccused-selling-fake-Rolexes-admits-wrong.html
Very true! It gets extremely blurry once you get into the 5k vintage superfrankens. I have always said that this is where bad people can really roam free. The prices on these gens have gone crazy in recent years. I only hope that we can all enjoy superfrankens before gen movements go beyond affordability. I have no doubt that in 3-5 years a gen movement will cost $5,000 by itself.
It doesn't just tell time. It tells history.
Genuine Movement Rolex Builds Thread
I am drooling over the Daytonas...
You can tell a ton of time and research went into these. I wouldn't know where to start. Very nice builds.
You can tell a ton of time and research went into these. I wouldn't know where to start. Very nice builds.
The best build specs without going crazy on gen parts:
Phong case ($1500)
Phong handset ($125)
MQ top grade dial ($600-$700)
GEN coronet for dial ($125)
Valjoux 72 donor ($1500)
Valjoux 72 servicing cost ($500)
Total: $4350
I can get it for a little cheaper because I go directly to the case and dial makers.
For the crazy ones (aka me included) the conversion to Rolex cal 727 is necessary. Phong charges $3500, I can do it for less but still a crap ton of $ - but then you'll have a 1:1 watch for a fraction of the gen
Conversion to 727 ($3500)
Total: $7850
Cartel case requires a lot of modding -essentially shaving it down slowly to fit a V72 and because it's not made for a v72 it has incorrect proportions and of poor quality. If you're already going with a $1500 movement (plus $500 to service it), then I wouldn't go cheap on the case - or anything else for that matter). If you're just using cartel movement (ST19) then its fine. I wouldn't put a V72 in there.
For the ballers, here's a 18k 6263 Paul newman just completed for a friend - solid gold [emoji51]
Sick!
Yes, was a bit afraid that a cartel case wouldn't be suffice. Are there other options than phong cases? How about yuki cases?
And modding it to 727 movement is really taking it next level, respect for that effort!
A regular v72 would be good enough for me.
What about the calibre 1570, 1575 and 3035 movements? Will the tide lift all ships or just some?
I think all vintage Rolex movements which runs about $2000-$3000 (some variants like the 1065/1035 GMT are already at $3.5k) right now will double in price.
1030/1060 base and all its variants
1530/1579 and all it's variants
Valjoux 72 probably will hit $2500 to $3000 but you still need to do a $3500 conversion to Rolex Cal 727 and service.
It doesn't just tell time. It tells history.
Genuine Movement Rolex Builds Thread
The best build specs without going crazy on gen parts:
Phong case ($1500)
Phong handset ($125)
MQ top grade dial ($600-$700)
GEN coronet for dial ($125)
Valjoux 72 donor ($1500)
Valjoux 72 servicing cost ($500)
Total: $4350
I can get it for a little cheaper because I go directly to the case and dial makers.
For the crazy ones (aka me included) the conversion to Rolex cal 727 is necessary. Phong charges $3500, I can do it for less but still a crap ton of $ - but then you'll have a 1:1 watch for a fraction of the gen
Conversion to 727 ($3500)
Total: $7850
Cartel case requires a lot of modding -essentially shaving it down slowly to fit a V72 and because it's not made for a v72 it has incorrect proportions and of poor quality. If you're already going with a $1500 movement (plus $500 to service it), then I wouldn't go cheap on the case - or anything else for that matter). If you're just using cartel movement (ST19) then its fine. I wouldn't put a V72 in there.
For the ballers, here's a 18k 6263 Paul newman just completed for a friend - solid gold [emoji51]
OMG! I never saw such a beauty before!
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Sick!
Yes, was a bit afraid that a cartel case wouldn't be suffice. Are there other options than phong cases? How about yuki cases?
And modding it to 727 movement is really taking it next level, respect for that effort!
A regular v72 would be good enough for me.
I don't like the quality on Yuki cases, theyre not nearly as thick (it doesnt feel as solid in your hands). The pushers also feels cheap to me, not as solid. Plus, I can get the Phong cases direct, so theyre not that much more expensive than Yuki. Yuki charges $1k for a daytona case fyi.
Another Daytona coming to life soon [emoji6]
It doesn't just tell time. It tells history.
Genuine Movement Rolex Builds Thread
It doesn't just tell time. It tells history.
Genuine Movement Rolex Builds Thread
A beautiful Big Crown about to come to life for @aphillippe
It doesn't just tell time. It tells history.
Genuine Movement Rolex Builds Thread
It doesn't just tell time. It tells history.
Genuine Movement Rolex Builds Thread
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A beautiful Big Crown about to come to life for @aphillippe
It doesn't just tell time. It tells history.
Genuine Movement Rolex Builds Thread
Oh please tell me more! Phong case?
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These 1030 movements are rare but man they are freaking TANKS! Mine is running COSC +1 sec per day! That's literally INSANE for a 60 yrs old movement!
It doesn't just tell time. It tells history.
Genuine Movement Rolex Builds Thread
I'm in awe. Officially ruined. As a gen collector, I've always lusted for vintage pieces but they're always out of range. Seeing now it's possible to build them affordably had me licking my chops.
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I am literally very conflicted. I've been in the market for a gen 6538 for a while now but it almost seems as though it would be the wise thing to just franken one up...
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