VSF Submariner VS3235 Gen Parts Installation Project

[StanGENROL]

Got my most parts, had to buy donor vsf3235 fully brand new sub 126610LN and that costed me 650£ plus genuine parts crystal and lots of other genuine parts down to the hands and most moving parts as the bridges and date disk and balance wheel and all those, looking into my watch would be near impossible to actually say it’s RP as even main plate I got is the generic replacement plate same machining and manufacturing as Rolex or to standards this plate is used for repairs and service if not mistaken, correct me guys if wrong, thanks all soon will post some great photos!

The process of building is so so so much satisfying and enjoyable!

I guess this pice now worth a few thousands as 98% of movement is genuine and all rest on exterior is about 57/65% genuine!

Actually case and strap and clasp is from my previous brand new Clean Factory 126610LN

Just waiting for my date disk and gaskets!

Actually even crown and steam is all genuine

 

[EWTAutomotive]

Hands down. Always wanted to fit geniue movement into my VSF DJ, but got no skills to do so so it will make my wallet simply dry

Keep my fingers crossed!

 

[StanGENROL]

Hands down. Always wanted to fit geniue movement into my VSF DJ, but got no skills to do so so it will make my wallet simply dry

Keep my fingers crossed!

Well I can say from 650£ spent on vsf and 700£ spent on cf126610ln and then on top of that all parts about 3700£ so in all we looking a it’s tops 3900£ at this price you get genuine omega speedmaster even for less 1900-2900£, but again we talking about movement that is 98% genuine at this stage

 

[StanGENROL]

Finish my build almost just awaiting for gen plate to arrive I think from vsf only 2% left and that is date top plate and intermediate wheel and still did not put my gen stem in to my gen crown, rest is gen, it costed me all in all with some people helping me from watch Buisness all just under 3200£ an gen 3135 movement costs 2800£ for 40mm sub, could get that but I just went for big boy!

 

[StanGENROL]

@dogwood hi friend, amazing thread, now I have 99% gen 3235 I have rebuilt all and oiled all cleaned and now when put all back the minute and all gears it’s like they stuck don’t move and then fork and balance wheel individually they move but when in place balance wheel only turns one side like something stoping it form make full left right swing only one way, all checked fork and escape wheel and balance wheel all are in outstanding condition and nothing missing, all minute and all gears are great condition, bridges all tide with screws not to over but just spot on! Any ideas on what can this be ? Thanks guys much appreciated


Regards,

Stan

 

[dogwood]

@dogwood hi friend, amazing thread, now I have 99% gen 3235 I have rebuilt all and oiled all cleaned and now when put all back the minute and all gears it’s like they stuck don’t move and then fork and balance wheel individually they move but when in place balance wheel only turns one side like something stoping it form make full left right swing only one way, all checked fork and escape wheel and balance wheel all are in outstanding condition and nothing missing, all minute and all gears are great condition, bridges all tide with screws not to over but just spot on! Any ideas on what can this be ? Thanks guys much appreciated


Regards,

Stan

My guess is that you’ve installed the balance on the wrong side of the pallet fork horns. If the balance wheel swings one way but feels like it’s hitting a wall in the other direction, then you are in a situation where the balance is “over banked”. Remove the balance and re-install it being careful to do so correctly with the impulse jewel pre-swung in the direction that the pallet fork is pointing.

 

[StanGENROL]

My guess is that you’ve installed the balance on the wrong side of the pallet fork horns. If the balance wheel swings one way but feels like it’s hitting a wall in the other direction, then you are in a situation where the balance is “over banked”. Remove the balance and re-install it being careful to do so correctly with the impulse jewel pre-swung in the direction that the pallet fork is pointing.

So you have an example so that I try that out and make it correct ? Thanks a lot much much appreciated friend

 

[StanGENROL]

So you have an example so that I try that out and make it correct ? Thanks a lot much much appreciated friend

Oh and this balance wheel and spring already came pre installed so all I had to do it just install the balance wheel on to the bridge by just fitting small pin in to the gap lose the screw and tide that up I don’t know if there is other way around it ? Unless this was mistake at factory as I bought it brand new wheel and spring as one unite

 

[dogwood]

Oh and this balance wheel and spring already came pre installed so all I had to do it just install the balance wheel on to the bridge by just fitting small pin in to the gap lose the screw and tide that up I don’t know if there is other way around it ? Unless this was mistake at factory as I bought it brand new wheel and spring as one unite

No. Remove the balance complete. That is, remove the balance wheel AND the bridge as one part. Then re-install it correctly. I would strongly suggest you lookup what “over banking of a balance” is on YouTube. It’s hard to describe with words but basically the impulse jewel is on the wrong side of the pallet for because you didn’t orient the balance correctly when you placed it on the mainplate.

 

[StanGENROL]

Here some photos eventually is on its belly so position would be different ones flipped

 

[StanGENROL]

No. Remove the balance complete. That is, remove the balance wheel AND the bridge as one part. Then re-install it correctly. I would strongly suggest you lookup what “over banking of a balance” is on YouTube. It’s hard to describe with words but basically the impulse jewel is on the wrong side of the pallet for because you didn’t orient the balance correctly when you placed it on the mainplate.

Okay so what position jewel must look in order to be correct ?

 

[316lad]

Okay so what position jewel must look in order to be correct ?

Usually done manually - by eye - looking through the banking pins and rotating the Balance Spring Collet until it lines up as perfectly as you can get it. It must be as central as possible otr you'll get wild Beat Error.

 

[316lad]

Usually done manually - by eye - looking through the banking pins and rotating the Balance Spring Collet until it lines up as perfectly as you can get it. It must be as central as possible otr you'll get wild Beat Error.

Sorry - cancel that - you're not trying to align the Impulse Jewel just trying to get it dropped in to the right position.
Start by flicking the Pallet Fork fully over to the right as you look down on it. Then bring the balace bridge down on to it slightly from the left and rotate very gently in place to engage the Jewel in the pallet Fork Pin. It might take a few goes. Be gentle.

 

[StanGENROL]

Usually done manually - by eye - looking through the banking pins and rotating the Balance Spring Collet until it lines up as perfectly as you can get it. It must be as central as possible otr you'll get wild Beat Error.

So it has to be centred ? Let me draw quick to see if I got it correctly

 

[StanGENROL]

Sorry - cancel that - you're not trying to align the Impulse Jewel just trying to get it dropped in to the right position.
Start by flicking the Pallet Fork fully over to the right as you look down on it. Then bring the balace bridge down on to it slightly from the left and rotate very gently in place to engage the Jewel in the pallet Fork Pin. It might take a few goes. Be gentle.

Ahh my good I know now lool thanks a lot will try do my best

 

[Pinion Minion]

Alex always makes things clear..

 

[StanGENROL]

Alex always makes things clear..

Sorry - cancel that - you're not trying to align the Impulse Jewel just trying to get it dropped in to the right position.
Start by flicking the Pallet Fork fully over to the right as you look down on it. Then bring the balace bridge down on to it slightly from the left and rotate very gently in place to engage the Jewel in the pallet Fork Pin. It might take a few goes. Be gentle.

No. Remove the balance complete. That is, remove the balance wheel AND the bridge as one part. Then re-install it correctly. I would strongly suggest you lookup what “over banking of a balance” is on YouTube. It’s hard to describe with words but basically the impulse jewel is on the wrong side of the pallet for because you didn’t orient the balance correctly when you placed it on the mainplate.

Guys!!! Success!!! Is alive can’t wait my broken unrepeatable by AD 3235 movement with some aftermarket VSF parts is a live! All now need to be tested is the cannon pinion if I did clamp it good! but will update!

 

[StanGENROL]

 

[StanGENROL]

If anyone needs parts for VSF as I got basically plate and loads of movement parts in all full movement vsf new! Only 1month on it! I will make an sale on the forum so if anyone interested would be able to get officially on correct part of forum

Thank you all for amazing saving here!

 

[TonyMontana]

Are these 4 parts the only ones you ended up swapping in the end? And can I please ask how much did it cost in the end? Thanks