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VSF New Release of 114060 No Date Submariner!

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I would put vs3130 in CF and call it a day. Case shape is maybe noticable under the microscope and OCD eye.
 

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Is there somewhere direct comparison between the two? Would you share the link if there is?

I haven’t had a chance to do a detailed comparison yet but have both in hand. Here’s a shot of them crown to crown (VSF left, CF right)

Caveats: this was from my phone, through a loupe. There’s still going to ge lens and perspective distortion , and neither watch is perfectly flat (I didn’t have time to disconnect the bracelet) so it’s not a perfectly square shot.

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I would put vs3130 in CF and call it a day. Case shape is maybe noticable under the microscope and OCD eye.

Just from optics CF 114060 beats the VSF?
so its more a discussion about paying the premium for the VS movement, knowing that the CF looks „better“?
 

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The issue with CF case is the sides are straight instead of tapered.. this is how it should be..

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..but on CF, I believe it's vertical which is incorrect.
 
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Here’s a 6 o’clock profile of VSF and CF. Tried to keep the angle and distance as close as possible to equalize any distortion on both shots. On the VSF, there is about a 0.5-1.0 degree greater angle inwards at the top of the case.

It appears to be the same angle on each side of each respective case for symmetry, with the CF’s being just slightly more but not completely vertical.

The outcome of this is that the total edge to edge dimension across the entire top surface of the CF case at any horizontally measured point should be like 0.25-0.3mm wider than the VSF.

Hopefully that makes sense and is helpful!

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You have the updated CF case! Lovely. Yours has the case taper (slanted sides) and better CG. Are all the 114's like that? The other CF Subs had straight sides and bad CG's but that one above is much better.
 

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You have the updated CF case! Lovely. Yours has the case taper (slanted sides) and better CG. Are all the 114's like that? The other CF Subs had straight sides and bad CG's but that one above is much better.

Oh! I had no idea! This CF was purchased at the beginning of October. I had a CF 116 purchased at the same time as well and it has the same case profile. Not sure if the time acquired affects which case was being used.
 

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Here’s a 6 o’clock profile of VSF and CF. Tried to keep the angle and distance as close as possible to equalize any distortion on both shots. On the VSF, there is about a 0.5-1.0 degree greater angle inwards at the top of the case.

It appears to be the same angle on each side of each respective case for symmetry, with the CF’s being just slightly more but not completely vertical.

The outcome of this is that the total edge to edge dimension across the entire top surface of the CF case at any horizontally measured point should be like 0.25-0.3mm wider than the VSF.

Hopefully that makes sense and is helpful!

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Whats your stand comparing both?

Who is the king of the 114060 asuming both are available
 

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You have the updated CF case! Lovely. Yours has the case taper (slanted sides) and better CG. Are all the 114's like that? The other CF Subs had straight sides and bad CG's but that one above is much better.

CF case sides have been always like this you have no idea what you're talking about.
 

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Whats your stand comparing both?

Who is the king of the 114060 asuming both are available

I’ve quite enjoyed my CF in the few months that I’ve owned it. That said, my eyes are super colour sensitive so I frankened mine with a gen dial because the pinkish lume irked me, and I’m a bit OCD when it comes to lume colour. I’ve also never held a gen or seen one in person so I have no real comparison.

I was also lucky with my VSF having almost perfect rehaut alignment all the way around the dial and the bezel action is also quite nice to me - again I have no idea how the gen bezel actually feels.

Currently I’ve got my VSF with a CF bracelet on it and it’s fantastic - I Oliver it like this. If you can afford to do that combo then great. Otherwise you can’t go wrong with either option. They’re both beautiful watches and super comfortable to wear!
 

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CF case sides have been always like this you have no idea what you're talking about.

I disagree. ZZF/CF had straight non-tapered sides. When the CG's were viewed from a side on perspective there was no slant. I can't be bothered hunting down pics to prove my point so I guess you have to take my word for it, or not.
 
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You have the updated CF case! Lovely. Yours has the case taper (slanted sides) and better CG. Are all the 114's like that? The other CF Subs had straight sides and bad CG's but that one above is much better.

Cf kind of fixed both . This clean was 2 months ago.. Whats interesting is look at the bezel thickness of the font. I thought vsf used clean inserts?
 

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CF case sides have been always like this you have no idea what you're talking about.

Cheeky, touchy CF fanboy. I know exactly what I’m talking about. The picture directly above this post shows exactly what I was saying, the CF case sides are (were) too straight.

Back at you.. You have no idea what you are talking about ..and you talk about it too much.
 
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Cf kind of fixed both . This clean was 2 months ago.. Whats interesting is look at the bezel thickness of the font. I thought vsf used clean inserts?

The ceramic, yes, but the platinum fill and pearl are different between factories I believe as evidenced by some looking brighter/duller than others
 

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Cheeky, touchy CF fanboy. I know exactly what I’m talking about. The picture directly above this post shows exactly what I was saying, the CF case sides are (were) too straight.

Back at you.. You have no idea what you are talking about ..and you talk about it too much.

I agree with streetfighter. They tried but still “straighter” than vsf