VSF 126610 Submariner with VS3235 Latest Movement 72 Hours Power Reserve

[leo6929]

I had mine running nicely for about three weeks, then I started getting +25 seconds daily. I got myself a demagnetizer after reading what could cause it and, lo and behold, after demagnetizing it only loses about three seconds per day. Another fun fact is that I lost the capacity to manually winding it. The winding just does not engage. I don´t mind about this, but I hope it doesnt cause more problems in the future.

 

[KJ2020]

I had mine running nicely for about three weeks, then I started getting +25 seconds daily. I got myself a demagnetizer after reading what could cause it and, lo and behold, after demagnetizing it only loses about three seconds per day. Another fun fact is that I lost the capacity to manually winding it. The winding just does not engage. I don´t mind about this, but I hope it doesnt cause more problems in the future.

The winding issue is one that has been mentioned before and is not uncommon. There is a post about it here

​​​​​​​https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/modification-repairs/9441692-vsf-3135-winding-issue

The part that isn't operating properly is the yoke for sliding gear (3135-217 on the 3135)

I also had one of these fail and cleaning and re-lubing it did not restore its functionality. I replaced the part with one from a dead ARF SH3186 and it has worked flawlessly since.

 

[Delifisek53]

Got the new values. They seem to be okay now.

 

[leo6929]

The winding issue is one that has been mentioned before and is not uncommon. There is a post about it here

Thanks!! will look into it my friend

 

[Si_jeff]

Hey guys, can I post a QC pic here? If not, where can I post, just wanna make sure it looks OK for trained eyes here and it is from VSF. Many thanks.

 

[Jayalvin777]

I'd be interested in seeing that if you can post a link bro.

You can measure the actual lift angle of a balance very easily. This video shows how
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Mine measured just under 52, which is why I believe it to be a 3135 balance. The 3235 would need a slightly wider impulse pin to engage the pallet fork slightly sooner and for a slightly longer duration, creating the increased lift angle.

My initial amplitude was 305 also so maybe I got a "bootleg" part, lol. Funny that VSF would call it that since that's exactly what every rep part is. I'm in the process of servicing mine right now so it will be interesting to get some measurements afterward.

Hey Kj, heres the information i got from china when 3235 got released.


English:
The 3235 movement released by the VS factory has the same 59° as the original product( as per information lifting angle is 55 on gen) . This point needs to be explained. It is not the common 52° in the market. This is also the difference between the market version and the VS factory. Modulate the lift angle data to 59°, and watch the data in 20 seconds. If the lift angle is set to 52°, the full string swing is higher than 270°, it must not be the VS factory 3235 and genuine 3235 movements. If it is set to 52 degrees, the swing of the submariner of the VS factory is less than two hundred


Chinese:

VS厂发布的3235机芯摆轮升角是和正品一样的59°，这一点需要说明，不是市场常见的52°，这也是市 场版本和VS厂不一样的地方，上校表仪的时候，记得把升角数据调制59°，走时20秒看数据，如果设置了5 2°升角上满弦摆幅高于270°的必定不是VS厂3235和正品3235机芯。如果设置52度，那么VS厂 的水鬼摆幅是不到两百的。

关于指针以及中轴，夜明珠，刻度等不再描述​​​​​


This are the readings i got on my vs3235 after service.

Face up: 284 - 3 s/p

Crown left:253 - 0 s/p

Crown down :267 - 3 s/p +

Crown right:253 - 1 s/p +

Face down: 293 - 4 s/p +

 

[Jayalvin777]

The winding issue is one that has been mentioned before and is not uncommon. There is a post about it here

https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/modification-repairs/9441692-vsf-3135-winding-issue

The part that isn't operating properly is the yoke for sliding gear (3135-217 on the 3135)

I also had one of these fail and cleaning and re-lubing it did not restore its functionality. I replaced the part with one from a dead ARF SH3186 and it has worked flawlessly since.

Hey kj, do you know is this the yoke would be easy to source? I got the same problem. Winder is making the job atm

 

[rush81]

 

[LEBLANC]

How is the finishing of coronet on the clasp? Can you post some pictures?

Thanks

 

[KJ2020]

Hey Kj, heres the information i got from china when 3235 got released.


English:
The 3235 movement released by the VS factory has the same 59° as the original product( as per information lifting angle is 55 on gen) . This point needs to be explained. It is not the common 52° in the market. This is also the difference between the market version and the VS factory. Modulate the lift angle data to 59°, and watch the data in 20 seconds. If the lift angle is set to 52°, the full string swing is higher than 270°, it must not be the VS factory 3235 and genuine 3235 movements. If it is set to 52 degrees, the swing of the submariner of the VS factory is less than two hundred


Chinese:

VS厂发布的3235机芯摆轮升角是和正品一样的59°，这一点需要说明，不是市场常见的52°，这也是市 场版本和VS厂不一样的地方，上校表仪的时候，记得把升角数据调制59°，走时20秒看数据，如果设置了5 2°升角上满弦摆幅高于270°的必定不是VS厂3235和正品3235机芯。如果设置52度，那么VS厂 的水鬼摆幅是不到两百的。

关于指针以及中轴，夜明珠，刻度等不再描述​​​​​


This are the readings i got on my vs3235 after service.

Face up: 284 - 3 s/p

Crown left:253 - 0 s/p

Crown down :267 - 3 s/p +

Crown right:253 - 1 s/p +

Face down: 293 - 4 s/p +

Thanks bro. That translation is a little confusing but it seems your takeaway was right. I just hope my movement comes more into line after servicing. I don't really care if it's a 3135 bootleg balance as long as it runs well.

 

[KJ2020]

Hey kj, do you know is this the yoke would be easy to source? I got the same problem. Winder is making the job atm

IDK where to source one of these for the 3235 bro. I went back and checked my parts drawer and the 3235 part is actually larger than the 3135 part so the one I replaced was obviously on another 3135.

Maybe ask Sub007 or interaktiv, they can get gen parts. I think some sites should be listing aftermarket parts soon, like there are for the 3135.

https://evergreenparts.de/spare-Part...or_Information

Ebay has some listed part # 3235-217. One is $45 plus shipping

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ROLEX-Day-D...-/303263800974

 

[Picasso74]

recived mine qc today, accepted, they seem weel

 

[Si_jeff]

What do you guys think? I am gonna approve it tonight. Looks good to me.

 

[rcom440]

 

[Tobel]

What do you guys think? I am gonna approve it tonight. Looks good to me.

If it looks good to you then you should approve it

 

[rush81]

How is the finishing of coronet on the clasp? Can you post some pictures?

Thanks

 

[DutchSUB]

Received mine yesterday. And its really good.

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[Tijdwijzer]

Received mine yesterday. And its really good.

The DW / Cyclops has perfect alignment! Hope to receive this quality aswell

 

[LEBLANC]

In the both side it looks great. Enjoy it

 

[Richarris]

Folks, I have one of these on the way and am feeling a little nervy about movement reliability reading some of the later posts. Are folks getting these serviced on day 1 or is it a case of only those with ones that have developed issues are posting about them?