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    VSF 3135 Winding issue

    Hi all,

    I wonder if I could pick the brains of some of you genius types.

    I bought one of the new VSF Subs with their clone 3135 inside.

    It felt awesome on arrival and seems to be getting good reviews, but mine's developed a wee issue.

    When the crown is in the first/winding position, it sometimes doesn't wind. It seems that the little gear/wheel thing moves in the direction of the red arrow (on the photo below) when the crown is turned anticlockwise, but then presumably should move back and engage with the other wheel when the crown is turned clockwise. Sometimes it does (as it is doing in the attached video), but it often gets stuck in the disengaged position and so didn't wind, just free spins.

    Is there an easy way to fix it? Is the problem due to friction where oil/grease will help? Or perhaps tightening (or loosening) of the screw keeping that piece in place? Or something more complicated in the keyless works? Something else??? Help!!!! As you can tell, I'm not very knowledgeable about this stuff.

    Fyi, the watch works perfectly in the date setting and time setting positions (and in the video, it's working fine in the winding position too - typical).

    Any advice would be much appreciated!



    https://vimeo.com/482111903

    This is video of it working properly (I think).
    Last edited by GingerBubba; 21-11-20, 20:41.
    Just trying to earn as much in my life as Tete earns in a single month.

    #2
    First weak point of the "upgraded" 3135. I repaired two of those already same problem.

    Don't tighten the screw or it will snap on you like on one of my customers






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      #3
      Try thicker lube on the "zigzag" arm it can help

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        #4
        Wowsers! Good knowledge, thank you so much for taking the time. I can't believe you've had two bad ones already, they've only started arriving in the past week or two!

        When your say thick lube, something like Molykote DX perhaps? Or not that thick?

        And when your say apply lube 'on the zigzag arm', do you mean for example where the blue line is? Or the green (or red or yellow)? A combo of colours? None of the above? Thanks again for your help!!!



        Just trying to earn as much in my life as Tete earns in a single month.

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          #5
          I forgot - the LN's been out for a while now, I was just thinking about the Hulk when I expressed surprise at you having seen two of these already.
          Just trying to earn as much in my life as Tete earns in a single month.

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            #6
            Exactly the same thing happens on my ARF v2 DSSD (well, it looks/sounds like the same thing). The advice I got was to “oil the base” of the cog circled green in your pic. But like you I didn’t know whether to do it around the screw or the cog itself. I can’t remember what I tried, but it worked for a bit then reverted to not resetting. So I gave up and just whizz the rotor to get it going (thinking that one day I’d pick up some more knowledge and be able to do it properly).

            So, following this with interest, in the hope of learning a bit more!
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              #7
              Those SH3135s suck. I’d just get a VR3135.
              They will eventually start slipping again and it just feels cheap. Idk how to explain it aside from it slipping

              VRs never slipping on my 2 builds. Just winds smooth as gen 3135s. Just out of the box it feels much better and the PR is much better too.

              SH lasts about 35-40hrs. Sometimes a lot less. VR seems to last at least 48hrs. Amp is sometimes a bit low but if you service it, it’s perfect.

              You should hurry though. They’re jacking up those prices all over the place. eBay sellers are selling those for $200-$500.


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                #8
                It's a different movement mate, not a SH. In fact supposedly, it's a VR beater.
                Just trying to earn as much in my life as Tete earns in a single month.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by oascom View Post
                    This oil for high pressure can be D5 ?

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                      #11
                      Perfect!!!!! Thanks so much!!!!
                      Just trying to earn as much in my life as Tete earns in a single month.

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                        #12
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                          #13
                          Awesome information. Love the documents. Thanks.

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by GingerBubba View Post
                            It's a different movement mate, not a SH. In fact supposedly, it's a VR beater.
                            I think bc1221 might have seen my reference to the ARF DSSD and was basing his advice on that. I didn't want to complicate things even further by replying, as I'm aware of the shortcomings of the SH and have spare VR movements should I decide to swap one in for the SH. But I wear the sea monster so infrequently I'm not sure I can be arsed...
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                              #15
                              Okay, I think I've found it how to deal with the issue (I certainly haven't fixed the issue)!!!!

                              I tried oiling as outlined and it's easy to do, even for a non tinkerer type such as myself. However it didn't make any noticeable difference and certainly didn't solve the problem.

                              I still couldn't get the 'yoke for sliding gear' (to use it's proper name - I think) to engage like it should. I couldn't work out what causes the yoke to move when you turn the crown clockwise. Is it just friction?

                              Anyway, the 'fix' is to turn the crown clockwise rapidly and firmly until it engages: a quick, firm, full spin with the fingers. I have a tendency to be very gentle when winding/time setting etc, but if you turn the crown slowly/gently, it doesn't move the yoke. A quick, firm spin however and it engages every time. You only need to spin quickly until you feel the yoke engage (so there's no danger of damaging gear teeth). Then you can just wind gently as normal.

                              https://vimeo.com/482790205
                              Just trying to earn as much in my life as Tete earns in a single month.

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