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no problem i tag you
the rep dial is the same as the gen dial
when i have time tomorrow i will take a picture
Any luck with pics of the rep dial bro? Thanks!
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VS3235 movement teardown
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Any luck with pics of the rep dial bro? Thanks!
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mrkawasaki
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Hi KJ2020
Did you have a chance to take apart your VSF 126610LN? Is the dial as per genuine?
Thank you !
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yeah speaking about that.. the vsf 126610 is NOT gen spec on the dial+datewheel bridge+crystal. Its much smaller than the gen 3235 parts.
check out the pics
check out the pics
I am not sure what the issue here is. Did vsf use different size dial+datewheel bridge+crystal? Did rolex change the sizing of these parts on the gen 3235 in the submariner?
I dont know mate, the movement you see here, is 90% gen. Only 4 parts are not gen, every bridge and gear and even the screws are gen 3235. I remember having a gen datejust 3235 dial in my hands and that was a lot bigger than this submariner dial. its hard to say what exactly the issue is as I dont have a gen 126610 dial to compare it with
I dont know mate, the movement you see here, is 90% gen. Only 4 parts are not gen, every bridge and gear and even the screws are gen 3235. I remember having a gen datejust 3235 dial in my hands and that was a lot bigger than this submariner dial. its hard to say what exactly the issue is as I dont have a gen 126610 dial to compare it with
Being honest, I installed a bunch of genuine datewheels/ dials on clone 3235 with 0 issues.
I repaired a broken keyless with gen 3235 parts and they fit perfectly as well.
Never swapped a dial on this 126610 so it might indeed be smaller (they may have used wrong internal case measurements and make that up using a smaller dial) but dws never gave me a problem.
Crystal is most likely a case problem so I won’t speak about that, but all the other parts I’ve installed were a perfect fit, movement parts included.
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Being it a sub or a dj, the movement is exactly the same.
it might be the dial only who’s smaller, read my previous message mate!
Wish I had a gen 126610 dial to try.
Same here, wish we had a Gen to compare it with. But even the datewheel bridge is much smaller than the Gen 3235 datewheel bridge. It's hard to confirm anything until we have a Gen. It could very well be that Rolex used a different size for the sub models
Hard to believe Rolex, who’s well known for “recycling” and using the same movements and parts for decades, will use different sized datewheels on the same calibre based on which model it will go in.
Back to VSF. I already installed a gen dw on a 126610, it fits. Now I’m wondering if I was working a lucky movement, or you got an unlucky one LOL
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@misiekped posted that the date seating plate used by VSF on the 126610s is from the 3135. But I think the dial is gen spec. IDK why they would go to all the trouble of making the dial with the stairstep edge and the non-continuous underside rim if it wasn't a 3235 gen spec dial. He said that the rep needs a 3135 gen DW and I don't recall there being any other issues.
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The date window positions on a 3135 and a DJ41 are not in the same place. A DJ41 shares the date window position with the native ETA/DG datewheel positions so I can't see how one datewheel would fit both dials. The 126610 dials are a tiny bit larger but I don't think enough to make up this difference.
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I think the VSF is correct.
There’s two different date indicator seatings and two different date discs for 3235. One date indicator seating is smaller outer diameter and takes a smaller outer diameter date disc with the ‘centred font’. See below (picture is a 3285 date seating but you get the idea, same size dial as 126610, same date disc etc)
The other is the indicator seating fitted to DJ41 etc. Wider and takes a B3235-111-K1 which is also wider.
Side by side, you can see the size difference by looking at the position of the plate securing screws:
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I'm looking for a little advice from the movement experts out there. I have a VS3235 that's running about 20 seconds slow per day and was hoping to make a simple adjustment to improve matters. Not looking to do anything fancy, just a simple tap or twist to speed up the timing. I've had some really nice results tapping the thin regulation arm on a SH3186 to greatly improve accuracy, but the VS3235 looks quite a bit different and I didn't want to start tinkering around and make things worse. To help with any suggestions, I labeled the parts in the pic below that I thought looked like they might have something to do with regulating the movement. I'm fairly new to all of this, so my apologies if the parts are incorrectly named or labeled below. Any thoughts or guidance would be greatly appreciated!
