Tudor Black Bay 58 ZF v2 vs Gen

db007 · 30/4/20

But the question is, will there be a V3 with an improved watch face and lume? Tried the gen and it´s all about the intricacy of the watch face and the vintage style lume - it´s stunning!

Saccs · 30/4/20

What’s odd to me is they textured the bezel on the v2 but not the dial. Seems like a simple dial upgrade and ZF would get a whole round of new orders seeing as how it’s not common to source a gen dial for these.

RepJunkie · 3/5/20

bac14070596 said:
Does anyone know the bezel assembly on this model does the bezel just pop off with click springs behind the bezel please ?

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Never really tried that unfortunately, sorry.

RepJunkie · 3/5/20

Spoons said:
This picture from the second post in this thread shows you everything you need to know:

I shouldn't be spoon feeding you, but here you go: on the rep ZF BB58 the lume is too light/white, the dial is flat and untextured and the numbers on the bezel insert are slightly too thin (this last one is a very minor issue). Now you have to decide whether you can live with those issues.

In the future, please try to read an entire thread before asking questions that have already been answered and discussed (in the very first post no less!)

You're a lot kinder than most hahaha

RepJunkie · 3/5/20

d3s19n said:
awesome review! Thanks!

The gen brushing is mesmerizing to me

No worries, the finish on the rep was what really got me tho, as my first rep I was really surprised with the quality.

RepJunkie · 3/5/20

jamiex said:
All this thread has managed to do is convince me to buy a Gen BB58, I’ve been watching reviews over on YT and now I’m sold.

That was actually quite the opposite of my intention haha, but glad I could help nonetheless. Happy hunting my dude!

RepJunkie · 3/5/20

db007 said:
But the question is, will there be a V3 with an improved watch face and lume? Tried the gen and it´s all about the intricacy of the watch face and the vintage style lume - it´s stunning!

I really hope so, would be perfect if they texture the dial and manage to create a more "aged" lume.

RepJunkie · 3/5/20

Saccs said:
What’s odd to me is they textured the bezel on the v2 but not the dial. Seems like a simple dial upgrade and ZF would get a whole round of new orders seeing as how it’s not common to source a gen dial for these.

Problem I see is that it is still selling very well, from a production POV there would be no need to update a product if demand is good for it. Although I really hope they do make a V3 with a better dial and darker lume.

jackflash · 3/5/20

RepJunkie said:
Problem I see is that it is still selling very well, from a production POV there would be no need to update a product if demand is good for it. Although I really hope they do make a V3 with a better dial and darker lume.

Agree. Seeing how fast VS factory have managed to update the NTTD Seamaster 300M. It would be great if ZF followed their example to update the BB 58 lume at least.

jamesputtmann · 4/5/20

I found the issues to be very minor on the grand scheme. If they were tweaked that would be a deadly piece

katak · 5/5/20

Wow I've just discovered through a NATO I bought yesterday for my future Spectre rep... I love this fifty eight, waiting for the dial "fix" !

Hoosier Watch Guy · 6/5/20

bac14070596 said:
Does anyone know the bezel assembly on this model does the bezel just pop off with click springs behind the bezel please ?

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If its the same set up as the BB41mm, it does. Bezel pops off, there is a flat ring (can't remember name), then 3 bezel springs and a click spring. I am hopefully going to write a "How To" this week on how I tightened up my bezel and got a more solid engagement on my bezel. Mine is a ZF BB Blue.

RepJunkie · 7/5/20

jackflash said:
Agree. Seeing how fast VS factory have managed to update the NTTD Seamaster 300M. It would be great if ZF followed their example to update the BB 58 lume at least.

I think VS moved fast on the NTTD since it is a very popular model and had they not done it, another factory would've. I believe the V1 was thrown out without the titanium to tell people "hey, we're still the best seamaster makers out there, don't you forget" and the V2 was done so quickly for the same reason, if another factory had made it first then they would lose their title and subsequently a lot of sales. ZF on the other hand, already knows their BB58 is the best out there and no other factories are going to bother starting to rep a 2 year old watch so there is very little incentive to update. Pretty sad (for us), but that's the reality of business.

RepJunkie · 7/5/20

jamesputtmann said:
I found the issues to be very minor on the grand scheme. If they were tweaked that would be a deadly piece

They are! But it all depends on how annoying these minor issues annoy you, for me it does bother me quite a bit if I'm honest.

RepJunkie · 7/5/20

katak said:
Wow I've just discovered through a NATO I bought yesterday for my future Spectre rep... I love this fifty eight, waiting for the dial "fix" !

Damn, that is nice. Love how the colour of the stripe goes with the rose gold accents on the bezel. I still can't get the bracelet off!

jackflash · 7/5/20

RepJunkie said:
I think VS moved fast on the NTTD since it is a very popular model and had they not done it, another factory would've. I believe the V1 was thrown out without the titanium to tell people "hey, we're still the best seamaster makers out there, don't you forget" and the V2 was done so quickly for the same reason, if another factory had made it first then they would lose their title and subsequently a lot of sales. ZF on the other hand, already knows their BB58 is the best out there and no other factories are going to bother starting to rep a 2 year old watch so there is very little incentive to update. Pretty sad (for us), but that's the reality of business.

After the launch of the BB 58, it took ZF a little over a year to come up with the rep. Which was quite some time considering the popularity of the watch. It could well be sales have now peaked on the v2 BB 58. So yes, there is little incentive for ZF to introduce an update, no matter how small.

RepJunkie · 7/5/20

jackflash said:
After the launch of the BB 58, it took ZF a little over a year to come up with the rep. Which was quite some time considering the popularity of the watch. It could well be sales have now peaked on the v2 BB 58. So yes, there is little incentive for ZF to introduce an update, no matter how small.

Although I am keeping my fingers crossed for a V3, my bet would be on something like raffles coming up with a good dial and hands to match.. however, I don't think they have anything planned. Wonder if there would be custom dial makers interested in making dials for the BB58?

boodoo · 14/6/20

katak said:
Wow I've just discovered through a NATO I bought yesterday for my future Spectre rep... I love this fifty eight, waiting for the dial "fix" !

This looks great, where did you buy the strap?

katak · 15/6/20

Hi, I bought one for the tudor V3 ( Yes I'm waiting for this one) and another one for the Omega spectre...

https://www.crownandbuckle.com/supreme-nato-20mm-black-desert.html

RepJunkie · 26/6/20

katak said:
Hi, I bought one for the tudor V3 ( Yes I'm waiting for this one) and another one for the Omega spectre...

https://www.crownandbuckle.com/supreme-nato-20mm-black-desert.html

I like your optimism my dude, hopefully a V3 eventually comes.

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