They now should adjust their prices or I suspect their v3 won't sell that well. I see zero possibilities to upgrade their watches to real 904L in a short time if new machines are really needed.
Unless people In China pick up On pure time’s testing and decide the same I highly doubt it’ll
Make a Difference to sales in the v3. It looks damn good and that what people want. No one could tell
Before, Most of the trade for dealers is domestic, we make up a small very Percentage
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I agree that they look good and many will still buy their subs (me too). But I am not sure of what is going to happen. I don't think all the western buyers are that irrelevant to their sales. I think the word will spread also to other places. Sure their watches are now looking good, but with the upcoming competition this is not going to benefit them. They only sell subs right now and they should be concerned if their sales drop. ZF and VSF will probably already have better subs, if you consider also this 904L lie...
I have to admit that I am very insecure. i have now read both relevant threads and believe that the test results are correct. But I ask myself one question, if the results are correct, why is 904l still everywhere in the puretime offers? at least puretime shouldn't mislead potential customers with this knowledge and correct it in the corresponding offers, shouldn't it?
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Guess I’m keeping my arf v3 lol, what a time to alive
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Well, this isn't a regulated site and many buyers don't find him through here.I have to admit that I am very insecure. i have now read both relevant threads and believe that the test results are correct. But I ask myself one question, if the results are correct, why is 904l still everywhere in the puretime offers? at least puretime shouldn't mislead potential customers with this knowledge and correct it in the corresponding offers, shouldn't it?
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A "testing agency" lmao.... bro come on
If anyone would like to check their reps for material chemical composition I would be happy to help. I’ve tested an ARF bracelet link and it is full 904L. The machine we use is more accurate than any hand held device available to the public.
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Here below is a chart that shows the difference between 316L and 904L steel.
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Lastly, I have a friend in the metal industry. I talked to him about these type of steel and he did confirm what puretime stated earlier - about needing specialized equipment to make 904L due to it being much harder than 316L
I am not saying above statement is a lie. I'm not working in the steel industry and is merely replying back what my friend told me. If you compare to the chart below, the 904L has a higher grade of chromium, a lot more nickel and even copper which is not included in the 316L. "
Actually this entire thread is nitpicky, so: 904L steel is not harder; it's less hard than 316L. Your own chart shows that.
Um, not to be too nitpicky
I only bring it up because I was under the impression that the 904L is harder until today's big kerfuffle.
Lastly, I have a friend in the metal industry. I talked to him about these type of steel and he did confirm what puretime stated earlier - about needing specialized equipment to make 904L due to it being much harder than 316L
But it's not harder, are you saying your friend said it's because it's harder or your friend said they need specialized equipment for some other reason?
Imaging what would happen if a factory is claiming to sell one type of movement in the watch but delivering a cheaper one.
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I will have to say this, although it's just a wild guess.
Angus, while indeed having guts to reveal the secret of the industry's biggest fraud, he will now need to be hiding.
Cutting off the revenue of all the fake watch factories by publishing his "study", he better not to be seen on the streets of Hongkong island or Kowloon Bay for a long long time.
This is an extremely good point.
Despite my personal view being that someone who paid more solely for 904L is an idiot, at the end of the day misrepresentation is misrepresentation.
One thing I actually really like/d about the rep scene was for a long time there was actually far less bullshit in the game than in gen circles which is absolutely a circle jerk orgy.
It seems in the past 5 years or so factories are getting more aggressive fighting for territory and are this resorting to these types of tactics.
If you talk about misrepresentation then all TDs and all factories are guilty. They always advertise 1:1 copy on every product they got.