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The VSF Submariners Thread

Tompa

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Noone can "easy" tell lugs.
They look all the same and I am on this forum 1+ month.
You must be insane watch nerd to tell the difference and crazy to "easy" tell the difference.

Actually, it mean I should stop thinking too much and go for any model I like because noone can tell the difference anyway
Yes you can. 116610 (40mm)and 126610 (41mm) its big differens on the luggs. 41mm have mutch slimmer luggs.
 
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For me, I can definitely tell the difference on the wrist. I’ve had both models and the 40mm feels like a chunk. The 41mm fits much more elegantly in my opinion and “feels” much more streamlined. The 40mm bracelet also has much less of a taper, so between the slimmer lugs and the more tapered bracelet, the 41mm lines fits my 6.75 wrist much better.
 
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Guys, you are right. After 1+ month on this forum I started to see bad crystal on my BigBang.
I used it 2.5 uears and was happy with that. Was sure its 90% close to gen.
Now I see crystal is like on Clean - horrible :)))
 

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For me, I can definitely tell the difference on the wrist. I’ve had both models and the 40mm feels like a chunk. The 41mm fits much more elegantly in my opinion and “feels” much more streamlined. The 40mm bracelet also has much less of a taper, so between the slimmer lugs and the more tapered bracelet, the 41mm lines fits my 6.75 wrist much better.
The 40mm has more wrist presence. The 41mm has a better balanced feel. I love and enjoy them both, but lean a tiny bit more toward the 40mm due to its slightly narrower bracelet (which makes the case pop a little more)....plus the VSF 40mm is a damn near perfect copy if you can get one without the floating m and without edge distortion on the date window.
 

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plus the VSF 40mm is a damn near perfect copy if you can get one without the floating m and without edge distortion on the date window.
Do you think that 40 mm VSF is closer to gen then 41 mm VSF?
I am specifically thinking about crystal and date window
 

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Yes reflection. I have a VSF 11, and it's good. The 12's are also good, but I have not seen one in-hand yet. Only QC.
I have heard that date window is perfect on VSF 11 but on VSF12 people see the reflection of date is different from gen.

Do you know if VSF use different type of crystals on 11 and 12 and its better on 11?
 

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I have heard that date window is perfect on VSF 11 but on VSF12 people see the reflection of date is different from gen.

Do you know if VSF use different type of crystals on 11 and 12 and its better on 11?
Just buy it. If you really cannot stand the crystal, swap with gen. You are over thinking it. You want gen level details with rep prices. Lower expectations.
 

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Nobody is going to know it’s a rep by looking at it from several feet away. Even some of the most knowledgeable experts of reps wouldn’t be able to tell without closer inspection of these super reps. Most Gen owners and regular folks would be left guessing if you handed them the watch.
 

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Nobody is going to know it’s a rep by looking at it from several feet away. Even some of the most knowledgeable experts of reps wouldn’t be able to tell without closer inspection of these super reps. Most Gen owners and regular folks would be left guessing if you handed them the watch.
Even if date glass has a blue tint on it while gen has chocolate?
You dont seet it from 3 feels?
 

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Noone can "easy" tell lugs.
They look all the same and I am on this forum 1+ month.
You must be insane watch nerd to tell the difference and crazy to "easy" tell the difference.

Actually, it mean I should stop thinking too much and go for any model I like because noone can tell the difference anyway
Everybody, who doesn't have impared, vision can easily see the difference, especially after being on this forum for over a month. If you can't see a thing this obvious, you absolutely have nothing to worry about when it comes to other details you seem to be so worried about. You're overthinking the whole thing a bit too much. NOBODY will notice the difference between gen and rep IRL, especially when it comes to the 114060 and the 124060.
 

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^^^one comma in an incorrect place up there, sorry about that..^^^
 

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Even if date glass has a blue tint on it while gen has chocolate?
You dont seet it from 3 feels?
You seems verry bother about crystals. You ask over and over again about crystals. First its sub crystals then its about Daytona crystals then sub crystals again. Its the easyest thing to swap btw :) Buy the watch and if crystal is bother you just swap it. You over analyse the hole rep thing. First its just a rep, not a gen watch. Rep watches is for fun. If you worry this mutch about this small issues it take away all the fun. Its a hobby after all. For me the best part of this hobby is to modd my watches. buy and change parts to perfect the rep as mutch as i can. But we like different things in this hobby. But relax a bit and start read. Everything you think of there is 100% a thread about
 

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I looked and handled a genuine 126610 LV at an Authorized Dealer in Vegas. It 100% had blue tint on the cyclops. I think most have red tint but a smaller percentage have blue. So not a rule out.
 

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I looked and handled a genuine 126610 LV at an Authorized Dealer in Vegas. It 100% had blue tint on the cyclops. I think most have red tint but a smaller percentage have blue. So not a rule out.
Any idea why? Some supplier of crystal?
Or AR coating or less coating?
Youtube "blogers" or "experts" when compared gen to rep said "cyclop has less AR coating".
What do they means? More reflection of the light?
 

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Any idea why? Some supplier of crystal?
Or AR coating or less coating?
Youtube "blogers" or "experts" when compared gen to rep said "cyclop has less AR coating".
What do they means? More reflection of the light?
I’m not really sure, I think a lot of these companies outsource sometimes. They also have a QC process, like the reps. Theirs is just much more stringent. In order for “Swiss Made” to be stamped, only 60% of parts have to come from Switzerland. Hmmm….

I don’t know which rep the YouTubers are comparing but the VSF crystal is the bomb! I honestly can’t tell a difference. Some are “taller” than others but recent batches have had lower crystal height in my opinion. But this is all relative because when you manipulate the gen, it gives a “tall” impression unless you lay it flat, if that makes sense. The Q66 -T8- focus on the T8 has great glass height and shiny rehaut.

On a side note, talking about YouTubers, does anyone else think Britt Pearce is extra hot because she’s a watch nerd? I can’t stop watching her channel, lol.

 

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I’m not really sure, I think a lot of these companies outsource sometimes. They also have a QC process, like the reps. Theirs is just much more stringent. In order for “Swiss Made” to be stamped, only 60% of parts have to come from Switzerland. Hmmm….

I don’t know which rep the YouTubers are comparing but the VSF crystal is the bomb! I honestly can’t tell a difference. Some are “taller” than others but recent batches have had lower crystal height in my opinion. But this is all relative because when you manipulate the gen, it gives a “tall” impression unless you lay it flat, if that makes sense. The Q66 -T8- focus on the T8 has great glass height and shiny rehaut.

On a side note, talking about YouTubers, does anyone else think Britt Pearce is extra hot because she’s a watch nerd? I can’t stop watching her channel, lol.

I am talking about this guy

I guess he compares VSF to gen because number "3" is different on VSF. And he points out its not similar to gen.
Also he pointed out "not enough AR coating on "Cyclop".
 
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