• Tired of adverts on RWI? - Subscribe by clicking HERE and PMing Trailboss for instructions and they will magically go away!

The SH4131 Daytonas - Long-term reliability test

trailboss99

Head Honcho - Cat Herder
Staff member
Administrator
Certified
30/3/08
43,352
16,302
113
A couple of initial observations.

Firstly, and this a Rolex issue not a CF issue, the adjustments available on the clasp are way too course, somewhere around 4 5ths of a link. I can't get this bracelet to an ideal size, it's either tight or a bit too loose. I've gone with loose.

Secondly, bring me the head of whoever it is on the design team at Rolex who thinks it is appropiate to use white gold hands on a white dial watch. This freaking thing is so hard to read under most low light conditions, even in a less than bright room during the day. If I had the gen I'd be swapping the hands to black if I was going to wear it regulary, it is going to drive me nuts by the end of this.
 

Feefo

CEO, Vaselume (TM) Corporation
Staff member
Moderator Sales
Certified
8/5/22
17,207
41,870
113
EU
A couple of initial observations.

Firstly, and this a Rolex issue not a CF issue, the adjustments available on the clasp are way too course, somewhere around 4 5ths of a link. I can't get this bracelet to an ideal size, it's either tight or a bit too loose. I've gone with loose.

Secondly, bring me the head of whoever it is on the design team at Rolex who thinks it is appropiate to use white gold hands on a white dial watch. This freaking thing is so hard to read under most low light conditions, even in a less than bright room during the day. If I had the gen I'd be swapping the hands to black if I was going to wear it regulary, it is going to drive me nuts by the end of this.
Panda's legibility is shit, I hate it. Clearly it's not the design team's concern, and if it is, the marketing team has the saying here...
 

GingerBubba

I make Billy Butcher blush.
24/10/17
3,522
5,721
113
CF's latest GMT has just come off some four months of use as my daily and it has stood up very well indeed. It's been worn to (and into) housefires, road crash rescues, wildland fires and more. It's been worn wrenching on cars, drowned in engine oil, it's had spray paint on it and cleaned with thinners. It's been cleaned with a toothbrush and dishwashing liquid in hot water and even worn while operating a jackhammer to break up a concrete slab.
A few pictures of TB testing the watch:
KWKQOn.jpeg

KWKrv2.webp

KWKBjE.webp

KWK86t.jpeg
 

Fabulously

Active Member
Supporter
Certified
13/11/17
490
1,159
93
Lalaland
Firstly, and this a Rolex issue not a CF issue, the adjustments available on the clasp are way too course, somewhere around 4 5ths of a link. I can't get this bracelet to an ideal size, it's either tight or a bit too loose. I've gone with loose.
Fully with you on this! I have always had the same issue with the 116500LN (both Gen and CF). I typically start the day with the "tight" bracelet and switch over to "loose" via the easylink comfort extension before the left hand turns all blue...
 

engbanna1

Gens are replicas of first prototypes
29/5/23
227
127
43
KSA
As we all know the new SH4131 movement is now available in the latest C Factory Daytonas and thanks to both C Factory and our dealer @CTime I was sent the very first one off the line for testing and evaluation. Now, there are far more experienced Daytona experts than I discussing the sub-millimetre accuracy of both the rep and the movement so I'll just say that the fit and finish, to my eyes, is superb with nice edges, brushing and polishing so what am I going to do?


I'm not big on the looks of the movement, it's a closed case back after all but what I do care about is how well it's made, will it (and the watch as a whole) take daily wear and a bit of abuse? CF's latest GMT has just come off some four months of use as my daily and it has stood up very well indeed. It's been worn to (and into) housefires, road crash rescues, wildland fires and more. It's been worn wrenching on cars, drowned in engine oil, it's had spray paint on it and cleaned with thinners. It's been cleaned with a toothbrush and dishwashing liquid in hot water and even worn while operating a jackhammer to break up a concrete slab. The GMT has come thru all of that with flying colours while maintaining accuracy within 20 seconds a week.

Now, we'll find out if the new Daytonas are as solid as the GMT because I'm going to beat the crap out of it for three months at least and report back here when it's done and dusted.
The movement in question




The watch on the timegrapher. A lot of the "noise" on the screen is due to the MTG-5000 preferring a naked movement to a cased one (even with the case back off) but I didn't wish to decase the movement at this point.


Two print traces from CH and H12 positions.




We will see how things compare after a few months of beating the hell out of it so watch this space and we'll see how both the watch and the movement cope with being used and abused in a manner that few if any of you would treat a Daytona in. Hell, I doubt many of you would treat a GMT the way I do 😁
What do I expect? Based on the way the GMT held up I expect good things even of the far more complicated chrono movement and I expect the watch itself to take everything I dish out to it. Let's find out if I'm right.
Great and thanks for doing for rigorously putting the watch to the test. I look forward to seeing the results in 3 months.

Have you ever done a similar experiment to a CF Daytona with DD4130?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Got20Mate

Watchguy369

Mythical Poster
Supporter
Patron
Certified
22/11/20
8,703
11,235
113
Firstly, and this a Rolex issue not a CF issue, the adjustments available on the clasp are way too course, somewhere around 4 5ths of a link. I can't get this bracelet to an ideal size, it's either tight or a bit too loose. I've gone with loose.

Secondly, bring me the head of whoever it is on the design team at Rolex who thinks it is appropiate to use white gold hands on a white dial watch. This freaking thing is so hard to read under most low light conditions, even in a less than bright room during the day. If I had the gen I'd be swapping the hands to black if I was going to wear it regulary, it is going to drive me nuts by the end of this.
That really depends on the wrist size. I for myself got AP Royal Oaks as favorite watches, but no chance to wear them with good fit. Either to tight or to loose. even with a 1,5half link (only gen available) its not working. For my wrist the rolex bracelets (easylink AND glidelock) work perfectly.
So you cant blame Rolex for that one, its just subjective i guess.
About the design thing I am totally with you, even if the gen has beter AR, choosing white gold hands is just dumb.


Agreed, most of us never use the chronos. I ask for testing and durability purposes…
Wait a minute - the Daytona got a chrono function?

:ROFLMAO:


IMO The chrono function is not a "problem" running. the flyback Spring part is the most weak point on a rep chrono afaik. so the setting back causes mostly damage, not letting it run. but who uses that anyhow.
 

m5smg2

Mythical Poster
Supporter
Certified
23/8/07
6,471
8,425
113
Wait a minute - the Daytona got a chrono function?

:ROFLMAO:


IMO The chrono function is not a "problem" running. the flyback Spring part is the most weak point on a rep chrono afaik. so the setting back causes mostly damage, not letting it run. but who uses that anyhow.
We dont use the chronos, even most gen owners dont. I thought since @trailboss99 was torture testing it anyway 😂
 
  • Haha
Reactions: Watchguy369

Dizzy

Advisor - Vintage Rolex
Advisor
Patron
Certified
15/4/07
3,586
634
113
Western Canada
It's been off my wrist for 24 hours, I'll get some pics and some timegrapher results ASAP. Suffice to say, it backs my belief that a lot of vintage builders vastly over age the pieces they build. On that note, I should take some pics of my 1680 which was my daily for around 5 years and had a similar life.
I’d love to see that 1680 again. It’s been a long time.