The AP questions thread (All the questions you want to ask about AP but were afraid to)

[michaeldingyi]

Looking at the 16202 too. Not sure what pizza hands mean.

APSF for the 15500 blue is good? I've gone through discussions, megathreads, and google spreadsheets saying it is, but just needed another confirmation.

And I've also been reading some of the replies above mine - some are recommending the black dial RO over the blue because getting close to the gen blue look requires modding?

 

[munichman]

Not sure what pizza hands mean.

There is a function on this board called "Search".
If you typ in "pizza hand" you´ll get 8 (EIGHT!) pages of contributions with those key words.

 

[tanith]

If you absolutely want a 15202/16202 now, get the ZF and ask @legend kindly to modify the pizza hands. However, you'll still the have the old style manual date change procedure which is standard for the gen 15202 but not for the gen 16202.

Thanks for that.

Darn, who would have thought XF would have such a limited run at the 15202, I guess I shouldnt have assumed they’d just keep updating versions

 

[gilrob]

Thanks for that.

Darn, who would have thought XF would have such a limited run at the 15202, I guess I shouldnt have assumed they’d just keep updating versions

Unfortunately, XF was shut down about three years ago during a raid. XF was a promising factory with a bright outlook, particularly with their 15202 model.

 

[michaeldingyi]

There is a function on this board called "Search".
If you typ in "pizza hand" you´ll get 8 (EIGHT!) pages of contributions with those key words.

Oh okay, got it. Thanks!

 

[W47chl0v3r]

I do not know of anyone who can do so currently, and I think the only decent option for now is the gen dial.

Thanks for the advice, gen dial arrived.

 

[SportieBordie]

Hi Guys!

A noobie here.. So apologies if my question is dumb =_=. I’m planning to get this watch:




What mods can be done to make it more closer to gen? or do you think it’s not worthy for this model and ZF already had done the job..

Thank you so so much!

 

[Hesekiel]

You can throw literally thousands of dollars at that watch, but why? First of all, the replica has a Miyota movement, which I personally like, but it is totally different from the GEN's Caliber 2121, which itself is based on Jaeger Le Coultre's Caliber 920.

 

[Artyfowl]

Guys I’m going to upgrade the crystals on some 44mm Roos and a couple of divers…. Perhaps my 15500.

I was thinking about possibly changing the date wheels for better whilst the movements are out?

Are upgraded wheels available for the 44mm and 42 divers? Or are they generally classed as good enough these days? From memory there’s a mix of apsf, zf and jf.

 

[Artyfowl]

Oh another question sorry… the date magnifier. Is this a seperate upgrade to the crystal? Looks to be fitted to the actual dial. Would anyone please advise how the dial is constructed to help me figure out how and if I should change this also. Thank you

 

[WaterMelonWatch]

For the 15400 blue dial, comparing ZF and APSF, which one do you think is closer to the GEN?

Thank you ahead for answering!

 

[Hesekiel]

Wondering . . . what's the composition of the AP ROOs that have gold components, either case or bezel, plus pods?
Are they made from steel and plated, or are they a solid alloy of various metals such as copper and other alloys?

 

[legend]

Wondering . . . what's the composition of the AP ROOs that have gold components, either case or bezel, plus pods?
Are they made from steel and plated, or are they a solid alloy of various metals such as copper and other alloys?

Actually you need to clarify the intent of your question. Is it purely academic?

Rose gold itself is an alloy consisting of copper and other alloys, namely gold, nickel and silver. Rose gold plating uses largely the same composition but in the form of a surface plating on a base material like steel. Different brands use different composition blends to achieve different color hues in their rose gold models.
When you see gold in reps it’s largely plating. If you cut a rose gold plated bezel for example into half you can see mostly steel in the cross section, and only the surface is rose gold color.

 

[Hesekiel]

@legend . . . thank you, Sir!

Allow me to explain why I am asking this question.

I have a 10+ year old AP ROO with a rose gold bezel and rose gold pods.
The leather around the insert that attaches to the watch was getting loose, so I used leather glue to re-attach it.
My mistake was not to remove the leather strap from the watch, so I got some of the glue on the pods.
Tomorrow, I want to use some rubbing alcohol on a Q-tip to remove the glue residue on the pods. I'm just a big concerned if the pods are just lightly plated, that I may cause more damage to it. Hence my question if the (fake) rose gold is "solid" or just a thin layer of plating?

 

[j21]

For the 15400 blue dial, comparing ZF and APSF, which one do you think is closer to the GEN?

Thank you ahead for answering!

Apsf imo

 

[Hesekiel]

I will need to remove strap and pods in order to do a proper cleanup.
Does any of you have a link to Ali for the strap changing tool kit? The ones on Amazon and eBay cost way too much money this purpose . . .

 

[Rantanplan]

For the 15400 blue dial, comparing ZF and APSF, which one do you think is closer to the GEN?

Thank you ahead for answering!

If you want the closest to gen .. take the black dial. The special AP RO blue one is very difficult to fake. Even darker dials are closer to the gen, imo.

 

[happyguy1688]

If you want the closest to gen .. take the black dial. The special AP RO blue one is very difficult to fake. Even darker dials are closer to the gen, imo.

How about the 15400 white dial? I thought that was the closest.

 

[speedywombat]

How about the 15400 white dial? I thought that was the closest.

I can chime in on this! So the 15400 ZF dial is pretty close to gen and 99.9% of the people wouldn't be able to tell the difference when looking at your wrist at a glance.

However, nerds like me do notice some difference. The biggest difference being that the ZF dial is much more reflective under strong direct light as compared to Gen's. The gen dial never gets really reflective like the ZF under harsh light, it only achieves slight "mirror" look when viewed at an angle, but never to an almost "mirror" finish like the ZF's.

The first 3 pics below are the zf dial, the last 3 are gen dials.

 

[SportieBordie]

Hi guys
do you think weight is right for titanium case and bracelet? AP15202 IP V2 by ZF