My apologies, I read your question wrong.
If you want a watch which looks the best that it can, then yes gen dial is a must.
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The AP questions thread (All the questions you want to ask about AP but were afraid to)
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If you want a watch which looks the best that it can, then yes gen dial is a must.
Thanks for your input, I am looking for the best dial OOTB, no mods.
So my question is, will this new ASPF V3 be an improvement over current ZF? (15400)
Thanks!
I have not seen the APSF v3 dial in person to comment on that.
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Hi Legend,
Read your post re servicing the clone 4302 movement. You said it is the best ap clone movement so far. Just curious, visually what are the main tells? Any chance refinishing movement parts can be done to make it look nicer? Thanks.
Read your post re servicing the clone 4302 movement. You said it is the best ap clone movement so far. Just curious, visually what are the main tells? Any chance refinishing movement parts can be done to make it look nicer? Thanks.
I did say it’s the best AP replica movement we have. There are still differences in the details, finish and engraving of text. Rotor differs slightly too. The refinish job will obviously take care of the finishing aspect only but not the other differences. You can make the movement decorations look nicer but remember rep will always be rep sir
Is there even a gen non-black dial version of the rose gold 15500? I have only seen the gen 15500OG with a black dial.
For now there is only the black dial for the 15500OR.
Hi, thanks everyone for insights and contribution. Learnt a lot (but not everything of course) over the last few days.
I am leaning towards a 15500 RG rep (with clone movement a4302) and keen to put in a gen dial. Questions I have:
- any reason to consider apsf over ZF? Currently my understanding that ZF would be a better choice (assuming the movement is the same and spelling error is fixed)
- can a local watchservicer swap the dial? How hard is that to swap a dial?
- how to buy a dial and not get ripped off ?
Thank you so much. Tagging @legend for their invaluable input.
I am leaning towards a 15500 RG rep (with clone movement a4302) and keen to put in a gen dial. Questions I have:
- any reason to consider apsf over ZF? Currently my understanding that ZF would be a better choice (assuming the movement is the same and spelling error is fixed)
- can a local watchservicer swap the dial? How hard is that to swap a dial?
- how to buy a dial and not get ripped off ?
Thank you so much. Tagging @legend for their invaluable input.
You're going down a similar decision tree to my own
AFAIK there is no 15500 RG rep with the clone movement from ZF at this moment (v3 from ZF have only been released for the SS variants).
The general consensus from what I've gathered so far is that the movement is markedly superior with the ASPF over the v2 ZF, whereas the ZF is superior aesthetically (with notable improvements on its dial).
The v3 ZF seems to be the best of both worlds, featuring largely the same design as the v2, but with the movement that makes it a "super clone".
The only problem for us RG lovers is that A) the v3 ZF isn't being sold anywhere that I've seen, and B) the 15500 RG only has one authentic dial color being offered by AP (the black dial).
As per your last 2 points, I'm genuinely curious about this as well, as I will likely either buy a genuine dial, or I will buy a rep dial in a different color if/when AP releases gens in different color dials for the 15500OR.
1. No reason. Both APSF and ZF works equally well especially if you’re swapping in a gen dial.
2. Yes APSF and ZF use the same exact movement.
3. Dial swap on a scale of 1 to 10, is a 2. Any watchmaker worth his title will be able to do it, sometimes even with the eyes open.
4. A gen 15500 black dial (rose gold version) can cost anything from $2800-3800 if they can be found. How not to get ripped off? You can post a pic of it and ask qualified and experienced member for their help.
P.S. Despite contrary popular beliefs, Legend is a “he” not a “she” or “it”. HE is also not a “them”, it’s Legend not Legion.
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Just an update that it looks like ZF have produced a RG 15500 as well. I have spoke with at least one TD so far that has confirmed this to be true. Check with your TD to make sure you're getting the v3, as I have yet to see any TD website list the new version.
Just an update that it looks like ZF have produced a RG 15500 as well. I have spoke with at least one TD so far that has confirmed this to be true. Check with your TD to make sure you're getting the v3, as I have yet to see any TD website list the new version.
Yes sir. Got it. thank you, very helpful info.
I never believe a rep can pretend to be a gen, nor do i believe Pip Pirrip one day would become a noble man. I just want to get the best of it in a cost effective manner to entertain myself
Hey Philip Pirrip is an awesome dude in an awesome story lol.Yes sir. Got it. thank you, very helpful info.
I never believe a rep can pretend to be a gen, nor do i believe Pip Pirrip one day would become a noble man. I just want to get the best of it in a cost effective manner to entertain myself
But yes once you set your expectations right, the rep world can be your oyster.
Hi gurus, if I were to go for the forged carbon version for the AP diver, which version and from which factory should I be looking at? Would the original rubber strap be compatible too?
IPF makes an okay version and is currently available from all TDs. The best ever made was the XF V3, which I can personally vouch for as being the best AP rep I’ve had to date. They aren’t made anymore but do pop up from time to time in the replica watch sales subforum.
Go for the xf v2 if you can find one, it is better than the v3 for me given the non movable plots which are consistent with gen.
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Thanks all !! Guess that would be one which wouldn’t be easy to locate.. How about the ceramic one then?
For the 15707, go for the xf v2 as well. I can’t remember the difference between the v1 and v2 anymore but I clearly remember the v2 was better. The guy to ask is @SuperLory he owns every diver iteration ever made it seems
Man if the 15706 is a unicorn, try finding an XF 15707… took me over a year to finally source one lol. Btw yes the v2 is much better, with the correct matte dial, excellent stock datewheel on a decorated 2836 with instant date change and ceramic case brushing almost identical to gen. V1 as I recall had a glossy dial, thick ugly datewheel and poorly AR’d crystal.