is there any possibility of finding a jf 15450? i really want onePersonally I prefer the JF 15450. The dial and case are better than the APSF one. I did one with a gen dial and gen movement and it was very convincing for me. The APSF dial isn’t ideal close up and case/bezel construction isn’t like the gen. For me the 3120 clone movement isn’t a true clone at all with the slow date rollover and poor finish but for guys who do not own the gen the clone movement will be decent but if there is a side by side comparison the clone movement won’t be in the same league by any measure.