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It looks great! I have a whoopy dial, but I'm not really liking the look of it atm. I'm thinking about having it aged or relumed
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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread
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"Woah, you sanded gen case to reduce rehaut?"
Not exactly, I machined the dial seat inside the case .4mm deeper on a lathe. This was done to center the 3035 stem in the case tube. The 162xx case was made for a thinner 3135 with a slightly different stem location.
The clutch in Rolex type crowns will allow for some minor stem misalignment but this can put the stem in a bind, and this can break the stem and/or cause the case tube and crown threads to not line up properly. It can also wear the hole in the main plate out of round over a period of time, depending on how much the watch is hand wound, the time is reset etc. Lightly lubricating the stem where it enters the movement with KT22 or something similar helps cut down on wear.
Not exactly, I machined the dial seat inside the case .4mm deeper on a lathe. This was done to center the 3035 stem in the case tube. The 162xx case was made for a thinner 3135 with a slightly different stem location.
The clutch in Rolex type crowns will allow for some minor stem misalignment but this can put the stem in a bind, and this can break the stem and/or cause the case tube and crown threads to not line up properly. It can also wear the hole in the main plate out of round over a period of time, depending on how much the watch is hand wound, the time is reset etc. Lightly lubricating the stem where it enters the movement with KT22 or something similar helps cut down on wear.
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Okay, That reminds me of the stem problem.
Ruby case is made for 15xx series, so I wonder 2824 can go in without stem positioning or bending problems..
I need advice from anyone who's ever installed Eta in Ruby @kilowattore @369mafia
2824 will work with Vietnam cases, 2836 won't.
If you experience alignment issues on rubys case you can use a thinner spacer or none at all and attach dial directly to the movement in order to gain that few chunks of mm
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Thanks. Will there no problem if I use this exclusive metal spacer?
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I red lot of your post on rwg, you seem to have lot of expérience with gen parts, possibly you Can help me for my trouble about the Ruby case, i received it and was really surprise of certain dimensions i took. My first surprise was on the bezel external diamètre.
I collect pictures of 1016 and using scale on them and use dimension WE know well (hands lenght, crown, lug distance...), to deduce bezel diamètre, and all the Time, i felt on something juste below 35mm ...
Ruby and all viet case seem to be at 35.3..
@pompompurin find a gen one with description AT 35.1mm
On my gen 14270 its 35mm.
I understand that some polishing service Can reduce this a little bit, but as i d like to do a little batch of MK2 bezel soon, would liké to have them perfect...and visually, the 35.3mm dont look correct.
If you have expérience with this dimension
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Oh, have you ever experience problem when installing 2824 to Ruby case?I red lot of your post on rwg, you seem to have lot of expérience with gen parts, possibly you Can help me for my trouble about the Ruby case, i received it and was really surprise of certain dimensions i took. My first surprise was on the bezel external diamètre.
I collect pictures of 1016 and using scale on them and use dimension WE know well (hands lenght, crown, lug distance...), to deduce bezel diamètre, and all the Time, i felt on something juste below 35mm ...
Ruby and all viet case seem to be at 35.3..
@pompompurin find a gen one with description AT 35.1mm
On my gen 14270 its 35mm.
I understand that some polishing service Can reduce this a little bit, but as i d like to do a little batch of MK2 bezel soon, would liké to have them perfect...and visually, the 35.3mm dont look correct.
If you have expérience with this dimension
No issues on an unmodified case but if you machine the dial seat as described above , that will throw out the alignment of the stem to the stem tube
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eta is 11.5 linge could not find the linge rating of 1570
I dont think they are the same but the way the dial and movement mount into the case are different.
they are close enough thankfully
I believe it's 12.5, so slightly bigger than the 2824. Makes sense, since you need a movement holder to put a 2824 in a 1570 case.
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Is this the only holder needed? Or something else?
I usually make my '1016' bezels from aftmkt smooth sapphire bezels for 162xx rolex cases and the bezel OD is 34.7mm on the last '1016' project using a genuine 162xx case...nowhere close to a genuine 1016 bezel. I can make a bezel with 35.1mm OD but for this project I just went with what I had.
"Oh, have you ever experience problem when installing 2824 to Ruby case?"
"eta is 11.5 linge could not find the linge rating of 1570"
I have never owned a 'Ruby' case but have made various movement spacers for different projects. Genuine Rolex 15xx, 30xx, and 31xx cases are all 12.5 ligne size (outer diameter) and ETA 2824/36 etc. are 11.5 ligne size so putting an ETA in a case made for a genuine Rolex movement will need a precision spacer. I have never tried a helenarou spacer.
I make spacers from brass flat washers that have been rough cut to be just a bit larger in OD than a 12.5 ligne movement and resize them in a Sherline lathe to fit the application. The helenarou spacer for $16.95 is a bargain imho...as long as it fits Ok.
I have too many projects of my own and am sorry to say, I do not take in any outside work at all.
"I don't think they are the same but the way the dial and movement mount into the case are different.
they are close enough thankfully."
'Close enough' is what many of us are forced to go with. It is a basic rule of 'mix and match' projects.
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For 2824, prefer to use raffle things, ruby IS for gen
Hey nice one, do you know where this handset came from?
