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The 1016: The Under Appreciated Thread
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Now, if we could get him to make NH gilt hands, and 13mm hands he could corner the market and retire young
give me some specs and I can ask him .Now, if we could get him to make NH gilt hands, and 13mm hands he could corner the market and retire young
While you are at it, a half dozen internally genspec 1016 cases sent my way would be no bad thing.
A bit oversized on the outside but genspec seat , threads, and case back.
$200 US would be a boon as well.
Just imagine...a reliable supplier of genspec cases.
And 3135/ 3130 hands too.
Interesting developments by Ken at Raffles - all good.
Conversely, a retreat from Vintage by Ruby.
Wonder if the Zeitgeist is shifting slightly - and why not?
If Ken's upping his game then he's so welcome in, when there's doubt in some older suppliers becoming "hazy" - to say the least.
Conversely, a retreat from Vintage by Ruby.
Wonder if the Zeitgeist is shifting slightly - and why not?
If Ken's upping his game then he's so welcome in, when there's doubt in some older suppliers becoming "hazy" - to say the least.
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Doesn't anyone think of sending a good sample to Ken? If he's just a seller, he wouldn't have much power, but if he's also connected to a factory, he could really improve the quality of the product.
The Raffles case could be perfect with just a little more effort. If they reduce the lugs, lower the bezel angle, and make the lugs thinner like the original.
It wouldn't be bad to send a Vietnam case as a sample either. Since the Gen spec case market is completely Blue Ocean.
The Raffles case could be perfect with just a little more effort. If they reduce the lugs, lower the bezel angle, and make the lugs thinner like the original.
It wouldn't be bad to send a Vietnam case as a sample either. Since the Gen spec case market is completely Blue Ocean.
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Couple of improvements
Hands - length, shape
Case - lugs, engravings, Rehaut height?, lug holes size (which might affect the bracelet endlinks because the current one can only be used with thinner springbars)
Bezel - angle, height, width potentially to fit plexi crystals?
Dial - crown shape and font, t Swiss > 25 markings (should be in the middle not the top if we don’t want a mk2 dial only option), dial feet options for nh movements
Happy holidays folks!
Hands - length, shape
Case - lugs, engravings, Rehaut height?, lug holes size (which might affect the bracelet endlinks because the current one can only be used with thinner springbars)
Bezel - angle, height, width potentially to fit plexi crystals?
Dial - crown shape and font, t Swiss > 25 markings (should be in the middle not the top if we don’t want a mk2 dial only option), dial feet options for nh movements
Happy holidays folks!
Got this new tool today…
Need to practice a bit to get the technique right, and build some kind of fixture to hold the cases, but initial results are promising…if you ignore the fact I forgot one of the letters…it’s late and I’m tired, lol.
The calipers are 20mm apart, so it needs to be reduced a little bit, but I should be engraving cases before the New Year!
Need to practice a bit to get the technique right, and build some kind of fixture to hold the cases, but initial results are promising…if you ignore the fact I forgot one of the letters…it’s late and I’m tired, lol.
The calipers are 20mm apart, so it needs to be reduced a little bit, but I should be engraving cases before the New Year!
Dial work, reshape + countersink/retap to fit gen tube - Progress
awesomeGot this new tool today…
Need to practice a bit to get the technique right, and build some kind of fixture to hold the cases, but initial results are promising…if you ignore the fact I forgot one of the letters…it’s late and I’m tired, lol.
The calipers are 20mm apart, so it needs to be reduced a little bit, but I should be engraving cases before the New Year!
mind telling where you bought this and for how much?
I love the look of this machine
This is a New Hermes drag engraver. Supposedly, these are the same machines that Rolex used in the factory. The machine was $200. I'm told people are finding them for about $150, but I didn't want to wait so I got the first one I found that looked to be complete and in good condition. It actually arrived much better than the photos in the listing. I found them on Facebook Marketplace, Craigslist, and Ebay. Ebay was the most expensive option, but had more to choose from, and this time of year, I just didn't have the time available to make 4 hour round trips to buy locally. Shipping was kinda outrageous, lol.
The "fonts" were about $100 each. I wound up buying two different ones, because I still can't decide if the Rolex Factory used "Regular Block" or "Condensed Block." To my eye, it looks more like "Regular," but I haven't tried doing a curved case yet, which I assume will change the width of the letters as you approach the edges, since you're engraving on a slight angle. There's also "Helvicta" and "Futura," which have more accurate looking numbers than the "Block" sets. That said, I'm stuck with what comes up for sale, so I'll keep an eye out, but very happy with what I have.
Once I figure out some kind of jig to hold the cases, I should be able to do case engravings in just a few minutes...literally, the time it takes to arrange the letters and trace them. It's pretty easy to use, once you figure it out.
I'm actually thinking this would work for the lug engravings on a 5517. Maybe the caseback engravings, but that would require a template. I think I could make one with saltwater etching, but now I'm opening yet another huge can of worms, lol.
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