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THB New Release of AP Royal Oak 15407 Skeleton Openworked with SA3132 Clone Movement

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Love mine, plated to match Gen color
There is actually no single or definitive “gen color”. The rose gold used by AP can differ from batch to batch and even between same models in the same batch.

Once used, the colors will differ even more as it’s affected by temperature, sunlight, moisture, body salts, minerals etc.

My rose gold gens come in different shades and each one is still gen.
 

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There is actually no single or definitive “gen color”. The rose gold used by AP can differ from batch to batch and even between same models in the same batch.

Once used, the colors will differ even more as it’s affected by temperature, sunlight, moisture, body salts, minerals etc.

My rose gold gens come in different shades and each one is still gen.
This. The only rose gold that differs from this is the Everrose from Rolex. Again, not all of them but a lot of them.
 
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Yeah it seems like Rolex RG is very different to others

@legend any chance we can see the difference in shades out of interest
 

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Looks like a modified THB movement with double balance, no clue on price but a very big step
Big step, but I wouldn't hold my breath on getting this into an actual working watch. Someone did some magic in adding a balance wheel, but then also cut off or hid the spring regulator? It's not free sprung, so not sure how this modified movement will keep time, much less function over an extended period of time.

The model also seemed to have replaced or re-plated the rose gold bridge to something more resembling the gen color. Or it could be just lighting.

Pretty cool vid, but without a lot more info, I don't see this being mass produced.
 
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Had to reject QC for an issue with dial printing. The "Swiss Made" at 6 o'clock had scrape and letters scraped off. Also, the rotor engraved writing of "Thirty Eight (38) Jewels" and "Five (5) Positions" is pretty bad. Looks like a drunkard engraved it using freehand. This rotor spelling issue was fixed but now looks pretty badly done at least on my example.
 

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Perhaps in an effort to expedite the V2 which corrected the seconds hand and the spelling error on the rotor the THB factory are doing things quickly and carelessly. Just something to watch for but for the drunk guy engraving on the rotor I don't think we will be able to reject on that basis if they are all similar now. At least is spelled correctly lol and seconds hand fixed! Will wait for new QC.
 

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Perhaps in an effort to expedite the V2 which corrected the seconds hand and the spelling error on the rotor the THB factory are doing things quickly and carelessly. Just something to watch for but for the drunk guy engraving on the rotor I don't think we will be able to reject on that basis if they are all similar now. At least is spelled correctly lol and seconds hand fixed! Will wait for new QC.

You are right. This is badly done.

It’s an interesting point you raise. It wasn’t that bad on the old one. It has the spelling mistakes. But it’s impossible to see these letters without the loupe. Maybe I’m getting problems with my eyes haha but i can’t read them without a loupe in real life.
 
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You are right. This is badly done.

It’s an interesting point you raise. It wasn’t that bad on the old one. It has the spelling mistakes. But it’s impossible to see these letters without the loupe. Maybe I’m getting problems with my eyes haha but i can’t read them without a loupe in real life.
Can confirm you can’t read the letters without a loupe. it’s a struggle to make letters out even when using it :ROFLMAO:
 
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Can confirm you can’t read the letters without a loupe. it’s a struggle to make letters out even when using it :ROFLMAO:

You are right buddy. I think it’s harsh to judge this from pictures. The spelling on the rotor can’t be seen irl. Not without a loupe.

But off course in the qc of @tangokilo it is very understandable to reject the watch because of the flaw on ‘ swiss made ‘ made
 
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Yeah it seems like Rolex RG is very different to others

@legend any chance we can see the difference in shades out of interest
Yes, here is an example. In the pic, it is a gen 26420OI (43mm) vs a gen 26238OK (42mm).
The 43mm is newer by about 6 months, both were purchased brand new from the boutique. You can see that the 42mm ROO has a hue which is more reddish and the 43mm (about a month old in that pic) has a light straw gold color. There are other gens with a variety of rose gold hues.



My point is that there is no definitive gen rose gold color as it is a very reactive metal, but a range of colors which appear in gens. Any colors within the range will be "accurate to gen".
 

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Yes, here is an example. In the pic, it is a gen 26420OI (43mm) vs a gen 26238OK (42mm).
The 43mm is newer by about 6 months, both were purchased brand new from the boutique. You can see that the 42mm ROO has a hue which is more reddish and the 43mm (about a month old in that pic) has a light straw gold color. There are other gens with a variety of rose gold hues.



My point is that there is no definitive gen rose gold color as it is a very reactive metal, but a range of colors which appear in gens. Any colors within the range will be "accurate to gen".
I agree with you Sir, even in Rolex, when new the Rose Gold shade is pretty light and pink but on older examples or depending on the ambient conditions of the wearer it can turn much more cooperish.
 
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Really helpful thanks!
So no real need to replate in general