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[[Suggestions, Corrections, Updates & Discussion]] ALE’s PAM GUIDE ****************
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Thanks Steelfish
Anyway if eisbaer like to read the thread I have BUMPED it, the title is:
PAM390 Noob latest version: Hand Color Changed ? (Heavy Pics inside)
ALE
Anyway if eisbaer like to read the thread I have BUMPED it, the title is:
PAM390 Noob latest version: Hand Color Changed ? (Heavy Pics inside)
ALE
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Update - 13 September 2014
Included:
PAM 532 Radiomir 1940 3 days PANERISTI FOREVER
A new PANERISTI from 2013 after PAM 360
The first rep Radiomir 1940 First Class classified
Good release from KW nicely finished and well built
With some little flaws to be corrected
Enjoy this new rep
ALE
Included:
PAM 532 Radiomir 1940 3 days PANERISTI FOREVER
A new PANERISTI from 2013 after PAM 360
The first rep Radiomir 1940 First Class classified
Good release from KW nicely finished and well built
With some little flaws to be corrected
Enjoy this new rep
ALE
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Update - 15 September 2014
Included:
PAM 382 ZFac V2 SUBMERSIBLE BRONZO - Fitted with the new decorated non inverted movement ZP9000 V2
The last Bronzo version from ZFac
Fitted with the new decorated non inverted movement ZP9000 V2
Some little improvements and waiting for the working of this new decorated movement, because to get non inverted layout maker had to reduce the balance cock to a simple bar (weakening it).
Downgraded evaluations of previous versions either ZFac or KW seeing discovered flaws.
We will see the reaction and new batches from KW !!
Enjoy this new rep
ALE
Included:
PAM 382 ZFac V2 SUBMERSIBLE BRONZO - Fitted with the new decorated non inverted movement ZP9000 V2
The last Bronzo version from ZFac
Fitted with the new decorated non inverted movement ZP9000 V2
Some little improvements and waiting for the working of this new decorated movement, because to get non inverted layout maker had to reduce the balance cock to a simple bar (weakening it).
Downgraded evaluations of previous versions either ZFac or KW seeing discovered flaws.
We will see the reaction and new batches from KW !!
Enjoy this new rep
ALE
Good afternoon.
ALE, you have done an excellent job with the Reference PAM review-guide. It is very useful.
ALE, you have done an excellent job with the Reference PAM review-guide. It is very useful.
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Update - 13 October 2014
Included:
PAM 364- P-series Luminor Submersible 1950 2500M 3 Days Automatic Titanio
The last PAM SUBMERSIBLE from Noob
Noob gets with this Titanium PAM 364 a very nice watch and a fantastic rep.
It is a pity the weird Cannon Pinion because, with a correct CP, this watch could be at the same level of Noob PAM 243, or even better.
Noob PAM 364 is a new Super Rep to be placed just after the Noob PAM 243 V2. With a correct CP and better pearl it would be the best rep of PAM Submersible available so far.
Enjoy this new rep
ALE
Included:
PAM 364- P-series Luminor Submersible 1950 2500M 3 Days Automatic Titanio
The last PAM SUBMERSIBLE from Noob
Noob gets with this Titanium PAM 364 a very nice watch and a fantastic rep.
It is a pity the weird Cannon Pinion because, with a correct CP, this watch could be at the same level of Noob PAM 243, or even better.
Noob PAM 364 is a new Super Rep to be placed just after the Noob PAM 243 V2. With a correct CP and better pearl it would be the best rep of PAM Submersible available so far.
Enjoy this new rep
ALE
Hey ALE, long overdue 'well done and thank you' post for the PAM guide.
SUPERB is all I can say. Many thanks for your effort and dedication and also anyone else who contributed to what is by far the most amazing and resourceful guide. Was very useful in deciding on my 1st PAM and was constantly going through it for weeks.
Going to be revisiting it again in the near future for my 2nd PAM rep.
SUPERB is all I can say. Many thanks for your effort and dedication and also anyone else who contributed to what is by far the most amazing and resourceful guide. Was very useful in deciding on my 1st PAM and was constantly going through it for weeks.
Going to be revisiting it again in the near future for my 2nd PAM rep.
ALE; I'll join everyone else in expressing my appreciation for all of your hard work, and diligence in keeping things current and updated. Without this, I don't believe that PAM's would be what they are today.
For clarification, in using this thread to update the GUIDE, are you referring to the "reference guide" sticky, as well as the excel spreadsheet?
I have a couple ideas for the excel spreadsheet, and please forgive me if these matters have already been addressed.
One thing that could be helpful is to include the color of the dial lume and markers; it's one thing I've encountered when evaluating PAM models for myself. The problem is that the same models appear to be different colors in different photos, so is hard to tell the true color without asking someone who has seen it.
Also in the excel sheet, would be helpful to have a column and periodic updates for which available version of each model is the most accurate or current.
And lastly, as has been mentioned previously in this thread, would be great to have a classification section of which models currently fit into super status, first class, and so on.
All of these things are just ideas based on my experience as a novice. Above all I'm extremely grateful for all of the compiled work, and for the precious time that everyone contributes to making this what it is.
For clarification, in using this thread to update the GUIDE, are you referring to the "reference guide" sticky, as well as the excel spreadsheet?
I have a couple ideas for the excel spreadsheet, and please forgive me if these matters have already been addressed.
One thing that could be helpful is to include the color of the dial lume and markers; it's one thing I've encountered when evaluating PAM models for myself. The problem is that the same models appear to be different colors in different photos, so is hard to tell the true color without asking someone who has seen it.
Also in the excel sheet, would be helpful to have a column and periodic updates for which available version of each model is the most accurate or current.
And lastly, as has been mentioned previously in this thread, would be great to have a classification section of which models currently fit into super status, first class, and so on.
All of these things are just ideas based on my experience as a novice. Above all I'm extremely grateful for all of the compiled work, and for the precious time that everyone contributes to making this what it is.
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Many thanks friends for your kind and encouraging words
Thenextpage, your suggestions are really interesting.
It is jut a matter of time to do them.
I will try to get some time to start those jobs in the future
Thanks again
ALE
Thenextpage, your suggestions are really interesting.
It is jut a matter of time to do them.
I will try to get some time to start those jobs in the future
Thanks again
ALE
Ale I can't thank you enough for taking the time to compile this guide. Also believe that thenextpage suggestions are really interesting and would be really helpful for newbies like myself.
Thanks
Thanks
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Update - 26 October 2014
Included:
PAM 382 KW V3 with decorated A7750 movement KP9000-V2 with non inverted layout movement
Comparison ZFac V2 and KW V3
The awaited answer from KW to the ZFac V2 fitted with ZP9000-V2 non inverted layout movementSome remaining flaws: chamfered bezel edge, thicker inscriptions on movement decorations, but overall the best option until the date: Oct 2014
Enjoy this new rep
ALE
Included:
PAM 382 KW V3 with decorated A7750 movement KP9000-V2 with non inverted layout movement
Comparison ZFac V2 and KW V3
The awaited answer from KW to the ZFac V2 fitted with ZP9000-V2 non inverted layout movementSome remaining flaws: chamfered bezel edge, thicker inscriptions on movement decorations, but overall the best option until the date: Oct 2014
Enjoy this new rep
ALE
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Update - 10 November 2014
Already introduced:
All new reps, either from KW or Zfac, fitted with the new non inverted layout movements still based in A7750. Therefore, we have still inaccurate position of balance wheel @11 instead of @7. These new movements, called KW KP9000-V2 and ZFac ZP9000-V2, have due to the new decoration correct layout with correct orientation of the inscriptions but in different position due to the balance position @11. False decoration of balance cock and main bridges are way better in KW movement but inscriptions are better in ZFac. Anyway as you can see in the PAM GUIDE pics and comparisons KW KP9000-V2 is overall more accurate than ZFac ZP9000-V2. A little step forward but NO changes in evaluations.
I have already included info about the reps as follows:
ZFac new reps fitted with non inverted layout ZP9000-V2 movement
PAM 312 P-series ZFac w/ZP9000-V2
PAM 386 M-series ZFac w/ZP900-V2
PAM 389 P-series ZFac w/ZP9000-V2
PAM 351 P-series ZFac w/ZP9000-V2
PAM 359 Q-series ZFac w/ZP9000-V2
PAM 388 O-series ZFac w/ZP9000V2
KW new reps fitted with non inverted layout KP9000-V2 movement
PAM 312 O-series KW w/KP.9000-V2
PAM 386 M-series KW V6 w/KP9000-V2
PAM 505 O-series KW V3 w/KP9000-V2
Enjoy the new reps
ALE
Already introduced:
All new reps, either from KW or Zfac, fitted with the new non inverted layout movements still based in A7750. Therefore, we have still inaccurate position of balance wheel @11 instead of @7. These new movements, called KW KP9000-V2 and ZFac ZP9000-V2, have due to the new decoration correct layout with correct orientation of the inscriptions but in different position due to the balance position @11. False decoration of balance cock and main bridges are way better in KW movement but inscriptions are better in ZFac. Anyway as you can see in the PAM GUIDE pics and comparisons KW KP9000-V2 is overall more accurate than ZFac ZP9000-V2. A little step forward but NO changes in evaluations.
I have already included info about the reps as follows:
ZFac new reps fitted with non inverted layout ZP9000-V2 movement
PAM 312 P-series ZFac w/ZP9000-V2
PAM 386 M-series ZFac w/ZP900-V2
PAM 389 P-series ZFac w/ZP9000-V2
PAM 351 P-series ZFac w/ZP9000-V2
PAM 359 Q-series ZFac w/ZP9000-V2
PAM 388 O-series ZFac w/ZP9000V2
KW new reps fitted with non inverted layout KP9000-V2 movement
PAM 312 O-series KW w/KP.9000-V2
PAM 386 M-series KW V6 w/KP9000-V2
PAM 505 O-series KW V3 w/KP9000-V2
Enjoy the new reps
ALE
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Update - 11 November 2014
Included models:
I have already introduced in PAM GUIDE all last reps of PAM 441 from Septembre 2014 PAM 441 ceramic included :
PAM 441 SF M-series SS+DLC with decorated P9001 KW type
PAM 441 ZFac O-series SS+DLC with decorated P9001 KW type
PAM 441 KW-V6Fac real ceramic O-series with decorated P9001 KW type
First and second reps have not yet interest due to the revolution produced by the releasing of the PAM KW-V6Fac made of real CERAMIC.
PAM 441 KW-V6Fac CERAMIC is really an awesome rep with a fantastic ceramic case-set with the same characteristics as gen, a nice ceramic CG and very accurate dial. As above said: a true evolution and revolution in PAM reps.
The best current version of rep PAM 441 by far and one of the nicest rep cases ever made
FASTEN YOUR SEAT-BELTS
Enjoy this new reps
ALE
Included models:
I have already introduced in PAM GUIDE all last reps of PAM 441 from Septembre 2014 PAM 441 ceramic included :
PAM 441 SF M-series SS+DLC with decorated P9001 KW type
PAM 441 ZFac O-series SS+DLC with decorated P9001 KW type
PAM 441 KW-V6Fac real ceramic O-series with decorated P9001 KW type
First and second reps have not yet interest due to the revolution produced by the releasing of the PAM KW-V6Fac made of real CERAMIC.
PAM 441 KW-V6Fac CERAMIC is really an awesome rep with a fantastic ceramic case-set with the same characteristics as gen, a nice ceramic CG and very accurate dial. As above said: a true evolution and revolution in PAM reps.
The best current version of rep PAM 441 by far and one of the nicest rep cases ever made
FASTEN YOUR SEAT-BELTS
Enjoy this new reps
ALE
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Update - 07 December 2014
Included models:
PAM 438 O-series KW-V6F all ceramic
One of the most interesting releases of ths year:
The awaited PAM 438 “Tuttonero†made of FULL CERAMIC and with a magnificent case-set very gen-like
PAM 531
KW-V6F Q-series with KW P.9000 decorated, inverted
ZF Q-series with ZP9003-V2, non inverted
SF O-series with a new movement
Three reps of a very nice PAM. The first GMT PAM with manifattura movement.
KW-V6F and Zfac are very interesting versions, really well made and First Class reps.
Interesting P.9003 decorated movement from SF, another way to confront the matter. To be improved
Enjoy the new reps
ALE
Included models:
PAM 438 O-series KW-V6F all ceramic
One of the most interesting releases of ths year:
The awaited PAM 438 “Tuttonero†made of FULL CERAMIC and with a magnificent case-set very gen-like
PAM 531
KW-V6F Q-series with KW P.9000 decorated, inverted
ZF Q-series with ZP9003-V2, non inverted
SF O-series with a new movement
Three reps of a very nice PAM. The first GMT PAM with manifattura movement.
KW-V6F and Zfac are very interesting versions, really well made and First Class reps.
Interesting P.9003 decorated movement from SF, another way to confront the matter. To be improved
Enjoy the new reps
ALE
I have gone thru all sections and brands but have not seen anything like what you have done here. Many thanks Ale for the hard work ... I really appreciate the research and knowledge you are sharing to this community and hobby!