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[[Suggestions, Corrections, Updates & Discussion]] ALE’s PAM GUIDE ****************

ALE7575

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TORO Bravo change of domain

Please note Toro has changed of website address again


BEFORE:
www.torobravos2013.com

NOW:
www.torobravos2014.com


Therefore, the links included in PAM GUIDE will not work
To use the links please just change 2013 in the link for 2014

From this:
http://www.torobravos2013.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_51&product_id=800

To this:
http://www.torobravos2014.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=35_51&product_id=800

I will change every day some links to complete the change asap

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Update - 17 April 2014

Included PAM 382 Bronzo made in real Bronze by ZFac

PAM 382 N-series Submersible 3days Automatic "Bronzo" - rep made of real bronze from ZFac

The long waited Bronzo just arrived !!!
The first PAM replica watch made in real Bronze by ZFac
An interesting First Class replica

And now waiting for KW version ... very SOON

ALE

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PURETIME CHANGES OF WEBSITE

Please note PURETIME has changed of website address again

BEFORE:
www.pureti.me

NOW:
www.puretime asia.com

Therefore, some links included in PAM GUIDE will not work
To use the links please just change pureti.me in the link for puretime-asia.com

From this:
http://pureti.me/search/?searchstring=pam382&x=87&y=5

To this:
http://puretime-asia.com/search/?searchstring=pam382&x=87&y=5

I will change every day some links to complete the change asap

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Hi ponster

As commented by yourself this is not the best place to include this post, just started to comment about the GUIDE itself
I would prefer you start a thread about this matter in PAM Section and in this way you will get more replies and opinions

In the GUIDE is written in Section 5.2.1

EVALUATION OF REPLICAS
Concerning evaluation of repicas we have made a classification in three levels:
SUPER REPS – reps very close to the gen in materials, external look (even in side by side comparison), and reliable
FIRST CLASS REPS- reps very close to the gen and reliable, but with some difference in materials, functions… or little differences in external look or colours only remarkable in side by side comparisons.
BAD-LOW GRADE REPS- reps with evident differences with the gen, different materials, functions, colours, very different movement with a display caseback. In general all replicas which have not any good version and are not at all recommendable to buy them.
I will consider the rest of non classified replicas as GOOD OR MEDIUM GRADE REPS
Therefore, all the reps without classification are good o medium grade rep, but usually we will recommend other replicas to buy when we are considering such a type of replicas.
As you can see this "Evaluation system" is not very strict and there is not a fix rule and less an exact DEFINITION.
Please TAKE the EVALUATIONS as a SIMPLE GUIDE to know something about the quality of a replica.

Anyway, I think it is no worth making mods or improvements in a replica of such a quality
For the price you cannot expect some perfect features
I recommend you to glue the bezel markers with Loctite Super Glue. Just that

Therefore, in order to keep clean this thread, I will cancel your post and ask you for start a new thread about this matter.
If you have no copy of your post, ask me for one.

Sorry, please understand me
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Update - 1st June 2014

Included:

PAM 382 N-series from ZFac and KW
The most awaited rep ever. The fight ZFac vs. KW before the release of KW ... LOL...

PAM 521 P-series
A low grade replica of a very nice watch

PAM 113 Noob O-series
The awaited rep promoted by Toro from Noob factory
The best PAM 113 so far

PAM 310 L-series
A decent replica PAM chrono 42mm for little wrists or women

PAM 382 Lite Bronzo

PAM 507 Lite Bronzo
Two "reduced" price versions in bronze (reduced "in quotations" because the reduction is not worth IMO), seemingly the same as expensive version but with cheap movement and maybe another reductions in quality

KW PAM 510 V2

KW PAM 511 V2
The first KW 8 days reps in V2 version, now with corrected dial, slightly improved movement (but not yet with real PR 8 days), still "old" Luminor caseset and crystal. A little step into First Class status

KW PAM 560 – 561 - 563
The new KW reps of PAM 8 days with correct dials, improved movement (but not yet with real 8 days PR), still "old" Luminor caseset and crystal. A little step into First Class status

Enjoy these new reps

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Update - 15 June 2014

New adds:

-KW 312 KW V2 Seagull
-KW 359 KW V2 Seagull
-KW 351 KW V2 Seagull
-KW 386 KW V5.1 Seagull
How to make better watches for less money !!
Again the profits of the competition


-KW 508 ZFac P-series A7750
The awaited Ceramic Submersible but made of SS DLC coated and A7750 decorated by ZFac
Now with “real†jewels from ZFac like KW decorations (interesting improvement from ZFac)


Enjoy these new reps

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Update - 21 June 2014

New adds:


PAM 590 LUMINOR MARINA 8 days - 8 Giorni Brevettato logo -
The only solid caseback of 8 days series presented in SIHH 2014, and fitted with the historic 8 Giorni Brevettato logo @3.
Nice and very well finished watch as usually from KW
Unfortunately case set and crystal are the same as old Luminor and there are other inaccuracies. Read the GUIDE
Impossible to get First Class status, just a nice and Good rep

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Update - 25 June 2014

New adds:

PAM 557
LUMINOR 1950- 3 days- LEFTY
The Destro or LEFTY version of PAM 372, the same level of replica with the P.3000 Clone2 with improved inscriptions on bridges

Enjoy it

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Update - 29 June 2014

New add:

PAM 448 RADIOMIR California 3 Days - With P.3000 CLONE 2 movement

This is an interesting release of a Radiomir 47mm California dial, fitted with an improved version Clone2 of P.3000 Clone1 fitting the PAM 372 Clone, but with inscriptions on bridges with correct fonts and good placement.

A very good attempt from the maker, carefully made and with ambitions. The results are at the expected level with the limitations of a non perfect clone movement, although clearly improved from Clone1 version. A new First Class rep

Enjoy it
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Hi Ale,

I was looking through the PAM Guide in Excel format because i was looking to buy a boutique PAM and i noticed that the model numbers were off. For example, PAM417 was listed as the Beverly Hills Boutique Edition and PAM 416 was listed as the Tokio Edition. I did a comparison with the actual guide hosted on RWI and a quick google search and found that Tokio is PAM 415 and Beverly Hills is 416, NY is 417. So just thought i would bring it up if you would like to make corrections.

Thank you for the effort put into amassing such a huge resource for PAMs.

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Thanks for your info. Yes you are right
I knew about these mistakes and I thought honestly they were already corrected in last version of the Excel.
If not, they will be corrected in next one. Coming soon

Many thanks for your kind cooperation
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Update - 20 July 2014

Included:

KW PAM 562
KW PAM 564
The new KW reps of PAM 8 days Titanium, with correct dials, improved movement (but not yet with real 8 days PR), still "old" Luminor caseset and crystal. A little step into First Class status.


Enjoy these new reps

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Update - 27 July 2014

Included:

PAM 449 Radiomir S.L.C. 3 Days 47mm - With P.3000 CLONE 2 movement
As a complement of the PAM 448 release, we have now the PAM 449 with S.L.C. dial, another classic 47mm Radiomir design. A very nice and good watch, a little step into First Class status.

Enjoy this new rep

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Ale, as I have become more and more of a pan addict, I find myself referring back to the guide a lot. It's just not possible to absorb the information, without referring back to it frequently. As such, I have been trying to check the guide on my mobile devises. Unfortunately, I noticed that the guide crashes tapatalk on all of my devices almost every time I try to access it. I regularly use a Nexus 5, iPhone 5, iPad 4th Gen and Kindle Fire HDX, with the most up to date version of tapatalk for each device. I also tried accessing RWI using the browser (chrome on android devices, silk on the kindle and safara and chrome on IOS). The browsers are a bit better, but even they crashes a lot of the time or time out when trying to load the files. This is not an issue on my desk top or laptap, so I am guessing its an issue unique to mobile users. Has anyone else had the same experiences???? In any case, I think it would be pretty easy to make the guide more mobile friendly it a mobile version were created that broke it down into smaller parts-- separate threads fro background, 000 to 099, 100-199, 200-299, 300-399, 400-499, 500-599 etc.? Is this feasible?
 

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Agree. The guide is an absolute reference source and is helpful at so many levels. Breaking it into parts would be handy.

Another wish list would be to table all of the models with their rating. I often find myself wanting to know current super statuses.

Many thanks for your immense efforts and knowledge.


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Ale, as I have become more and more of a pan addict, I find myself referring back to the guide a lot. It's just not possible to absorb the information, without referring back to it frequently. As such, I have been trying to check the guide on my mobile devises. Unfortunately, I noticed that the guide crashes tapatalk on all of my devices almost every time I try to access it. I regularly use a Nexus 5, iPhone 5, iPad 4th Gen and Kindle Fire HDX, with the most up to date version of tapatalk for each device. I also tried accessing RWI using the browser (chrome on android devices, silk on the kindle and safara and chrome on IOS). The browsers are a bit better, but even they crashes a lot of the time or time out when trying to load the files. This is not an issue on my desk top or laptap, so I am guessing its an issue unique to mobile users. Has anyone else had the same experiences???? In any case, I think it would be pretty easy to make the guide more mobile friendly it a mobile version were created that broke it down into smaller parts-- separate threads fro background, 000 to 099, 100-199, 200-299, 300-399, 400-499, 500-599 etc.? Is this feasible?

Agree. The guide is an absolute reference source and is helpful at so many levels. Breaking it into parts would be handy.

Another wish list would be to table all of the models with their rating. I often find myself wanting to know current super statuses.

Many thanks for your immense efforts and knowledge.

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

Thanks for your kind suggestions. The PAm GUIDE really is to be managed from a computer or big tablet. It is no useful for phones or little screens.
Yes I understand your problem but this mod would make more difficult other things, as the edition, the searching function and we would lose all the current links to the PAM GUIDE. In this way we would need many links to make reference to the GUIDE.
The most complicated would be the EDITION for myself. At this moment a true nightmare everyday. With separated thread that would be much worse
Anyway thanks
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Puretime and Perfect Clones CHANGE of domain

PERFECT CLONES CHANGES OF WEB DOMAIN

BEFORE:
www.p-cls.com

NOW:
www.pf-818.com
Ther3efore some links on the PAm GUIDE will be no operative. To use the links please just change p-cls.com in the link for pf-818.com

From this:
http://p-cls.com/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

To this:
http://pf-818-com/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I will change every day some links to complete the change asap


PURETIME CHANGES OF WEB DOMAIN


Please note PURETIME has changed of website address again

BEFORE:
www.puretime asia.com

NOW:
www.pure-time.com

Now both domains are operative, but I have already changed all the links of Puretime to the new and future domain www.pure-time.com


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All new domains UPDATED

Today, 31 August 2014, all links of PAM GUIDE are UPDATED with the new domains of :

-Puretime,
-Torobravos
-Perfect Clones

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Does it still work if you clear your cache? This is what I see in chrome and firefox.

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