Tc & ginault hoarder!
The tc looks very forest green like, my Aliexpress looks better
..more info on that 2 tone
I am aware my date is sitting low, & insert off center
The old TC insert is actually from another older Kermit (the TT case).
I am torn whether to turn into a 16800 matte T dial and use the Gold Sands Ginault to make a 16613 homage (my original plan)
Or leave the gold sands stock (discontinued now so might be best) and use the old TC case for a proper 16613LN (probably what I will do but more expensive route)
The cheap BP on the right has a 2836 and I just tested that the dial is way too large to use in the TC case, it also has wrong date position. It also has the worlds worst crystal, which I may just remove the cyclops and enjoy as is instead of trying to replace.