Review of ZZF New Sub 116610 LN and Comparison vs. Gen, ARF, Noob and Nail (PART I)

[rolexppapfan]

jtimewatch post on your web site at least a lume pic and please tell zzf to buy a rehaut machine

 

[Tigerdragon]

i still hope that ARF change to the old DW from the first batch of the 2824 version. Rehaut is tricky because noob is still copying the old double engraved reahut (or did they changed it now?) Where the the new factorys are using the new rolex rehaut (single laser and not engraved) as layout, so no idea why they dont get that to be "good".

Is the ZZF dial compatible with the ARF version (movement etc)? Because i actually like the dial 6 and 9 marker look close and it has the new 2018/2019 layout.

 

[rolexppapfan]

i still hope that ARF change to the old DW from the first batch of the 2824 version. Rehaut is tricky because noob is still copying the old double engraved reahut (or did they changed it now?) Where the the new factorys are using the new rolex rehaut (single laser and not engraved) as layout, so no idea why they dont get that to be "good".

Is the ZZF dial compatible with the ARF version (movement etc)? Because i actually like the dial 6 and 9 marker look close and it has the new 2018/2019 layout.

Yes noob did change to the new 1 layer check it out on the new noob v9 GMT
https://www.intime04.co/rollie/5838...b-best-edition-a3186-correct-hand-stacks.html 10th photo

 

[rolexppapfan]

i think if noob will do a 2019 sub it will be pretty dam good hope the will improve the SELS

 

[xartan]

You can always hope. They’ll probably break something else if they fix the SELs. At lot of other stuff needs to be fixed as well on the noob. My money is on an arf with improved midcase without too many other regressions. I’ve learned to not let my expectations run too high, though.

 

[Sub116610LN]

I hope it is a demo 316L not perfect bracelet.... this picture on top is not one of the best SEL-Bracelet fit/mounted to be on the new Top competitor for the Best 116610LN

I hope it will be changed/fixed

 

[Tigerdragon]

Yes noob did change to the new 1 layer check it out on the new noob v9 GMT
https://www.intime04.co/rollie/5838...b-best-edition-a3186-correct-hand-stacks.html 10th photo

its a shame i loved the old rehaut

 

[Vvvlllooo]

One of my concerns: The crown sticks waaaayyyy ouuuuuutttttttt!

 

[Sub116610LN]

The crown seems too long because of the stem length, it could be shortened easily

 

[chigganv]

Well the ZZF/ARF seem kind of equal. Think I prefer ARF in some ways actually.

NOOB still best for modding

 

[rolexppapfan]

guys whats your opinion on the case shape is better equal or worse than noob

 

[Sub116610LN]

Well the ZZF/ARF seem kind of equal. Think I prefer ARF in some ways actually.

NOOB still best for modding

ARF has better CG shapes, not vertical as ZZF on crown view, ZZF has a better insert (but it is from Clean Factory), crystal height and date fonts, Noob is not so good if it has bezel group glued to case, also on Noob it should be changed at least the indexes which are with less lume showing too much borders. So at least could be good if on a Noob it could be possible to swap a clean factory bezel and insert, a ZZF or an ARF dial, and lowering a little the SELs to have a little gap to the Lugs. Remember, no Factory would do everything perfect, otherwise the competitors should close their business, But , they could split the parts to do in the best way then sell separately to let us assemble our perfect toy, Or they could specialize in models / brands to be not in competition between them

 

[chigganv]

ARF has better CG shapes, not vertical as ZZF on crown view, ZZF has a better insert (but it is from Clean Factory), crystal height and date fonts, Noob is not so good if it has bezel group glued to case, also on Noob it should be changed at least the indexes which are with less lume showing too much borders. So at least could be good if on a Noob it could be possible to swap a clean factory bezel and insert, a ZZF or an ARF dial, and lowering a little the SELs to have a little gap to the Lugs. Remember, no Factory would do everything perfect, otherwise the competitors should close their business, But , they could split the parts to do in the best way then sell separately to let us assemble our perfect toy, Or they could specialize in models / brands to be not in competition between them

Totally agree they should sell separate parts so we could modify it easier!

 

[Sub116610LN]

Totally agree they should sell separate parts so we could modify it easier!

But they must agree about sizes, very often parts of different factories could not be swapped, and they knows it perfectly

 

[xartan]

...Or they could specialize in models / brands to be not in competition between them

Now look how that has turned out with JF doing APs. They are just making worse and worse reps at a redicolous price.

 

[jtimewatch]

Thank you all for your precious time and valuable comments and discussion here.
PART II review was just posted, here is the link as below:
https://forum.replica-watch.info/fo...d-comparison-vs-gen-arf-noob-and-nail-part-ii

leave what ever you want say over there as always.
Cheers!

 

[chigganv]

Now look how that has turned out with JF doing APs. They are just making worse and worse reps at a redicolous price.

The last V5 in white/black is actually good. The blue print is however shit...

 

[Tigerdragon]

And the bracelet quality isn't as good as before of the APs (sadly)

 

[faramir85]

Thanks for the awesome review!

 

[Tobel]

Totally agree they should sell separate parts so we could modify it easier!

The few people that want and can do mods is clearly not their target market. Manufacturers aim at selling 1000's of standard models, it's much less complex and most customers are happy that way. Managing inventories and selling individual parts is a nightmare, and that's why you're seeing ARF for example who refuse to sell parts