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RAF 16610, New 5 Digit Factory
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Coronet is defintely centred, that centre part between the 2 anchoring spring bars on the clasp is where it rattles which may happen on gen because of the design, im not sure. Will put a gen insert in bezel tomorrowSounds like the typical JF/ARF/RAF clasp they've had over the years. Is your coronet centered or slightly to the right on your clasp?
The most consistant upgrade I've heard with these is getting a gen clasp. Not that it even matters, but I wonder if the watch and bracelet are actually 904L, considering there hasn't really been much upgrades since I first saw the JF back in 2018. Back when they were only 316L and $380, before the 904L claim and upcharge.
All in all, a good watch out of the box, but needs some work to be great. Still the only good franken candidate for a 5 digit Sub. Still excited to get mine, I'll do a write up and add a bunch of photos for documenting.
Thank you for giving a comparison
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Classic rep move, reproducing a gen flaw and not fixing it after new versions ...
Just a note, when looking at your sel and band ( chanfered link edge) pictures there is a chance that your bracelet is actually a JF one
I made a JF/RAF/GEN comparison here: https://forum.replica-watch.info/th...-digit-factory.10925336/page-18#post-11145484
An easy way to check if it's a JF or an ARF/RAF one is to check the clasp blade engraving
Yes, it seems that the stock bracelet of my Raf is JF, actually in my opinion the whole watch is Jf and they called it Raf. I say this because the gen bracelet fits well only in JF cases.. from the research I've done and from the tests
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Funny, that happend to my JF16610 too, it literally just fell of my wrist.
My thoughts all along were the JF and RARF is the same thing (different movement aside).
My thoughts all along were the JF and RARF is the same thing (different movement aside).
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I finally got my QC for my LN, and it's not great. Main issue being the crown tube isn't counter sunk. Add the white gold crown, off center clasp coronet, which made it my very first watch rejection out of the 30+ reps I've purchased through TDs. Hopefully the next one I get is better.
If the next is the same, I'll may just accept it and countersink the case myself when I swap in a VS or VR 3135. Gen tube and crown are fairly inexpensive, so it's not too bad I suppose.
Maybe the damn VSF 126610 I had spoiled me, considering it was perfect OOTB for only $50 more. Curse my 5-digit love
If the next is the same, I'll may just accept it and countersink the case myself when I swap in a VS or VR 3135. Gen tube and crown are fairly inexpensive, so it's not too bad I suppose.
Maybe the damn VSF 126610 I had spoiled me, considering it was perfect OOTB for only $50 more. Curse my 5-digit love
I guess i just need to force it. I found the raf insert very easy to get in. Was the gen tighter?
RAF bezel accept genuine insert without problem
Can you show your qc pics to illustrate what you mean i might be ignorant of whats offI finally got my QC for my LN, and it's not great. Main issue being the crown tube isn't counter sunk. Add the white gold crown, off center clasp coronet, which made it my very first watch rejection out of the 30+ reps I've purchased through TDs. Hopefully the next one I get is better.
If the next is the same, I'll may just accept it and countersink the case myself when I swap in a VS or VR 3135. Gen tube and crown are fairly inexpensive, so it's not too bad I suppose.
Maybe the damn VSF 126610 I had spoiled me, considering it was perfect OOTB for only $50 more. Curse my 5-digit love
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These are the issues with the watch. Again, my main issue is the case not being counter sunk for the tube. That causes the tube flange and crown to stick out far. The wrong crown and off center clasp coronet can be dealt with, but I'd prefer to have a case that I don't need to machine.
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Got QC photos of the new engraved rehaut version today. The watch overall looks pretty good, rehaut aligned, even the cyclops looks pretty good. On the other hand there is still the wrong white gold crown, and CG issues.
Regardless, I think the watch is acceptable due to lack of 5 digit Sub options. Most of the flaws I can live with or modify.
Regardless, I think the watch is acceptable due to lack of 5 digit Sub options. Most of the flaws I can live with or modify.
Ah i see what you mean. My crown is wrong too. My crowns sit in tighter than that and the datewheel 8s surprisingly good, not overly thick like that 24. I just threw mine on a 6 digit bracelet to bastardise it even moreThese are the issues with the watch. Again, my main issue is the case not being counter sunk for the tube. That causes the tube flange and crown to stick out far. The wrong crown and off center clasp coronet can be dealt with, but I'd prefer to have a case that I don't need to machine.
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I reckon those 6 and 9 markers are an improvement over the old arf onesGot QC photos of the new engraved rehaut version today. The watch overall looks pretty good, rehaut aligned, even the cyclops looks pretty good. On the other hand there is still the wrong white gold crown, and CG issues.
Regardless, I think the watch is acceptable due to lack of 5 digit Sub options. Most of the flaws I can live with or modify.
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NGL, I might do the same. I have a decent rep Glidelock bracelet lying around.
KushBandit
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Seems the counter sunk tube is hit or miss with these. As @KJ2020 said, it's been an issue with ARF for a long time. The datewheel doesn't bother me much because I'm swapping the movement out anyway. Your case is properly counter-sunk for the tube, so that's great to hear.
A gen crown is a solid upgrade, and it's one I'll be doing if the next watch has the same one. The wrong trip-lock dots may not bother you, but they do for me. I don't expect too much from reps, but the tube flange sticking out far is an instant reject for me. I don't want to spend nearly $500 on a watch that's case needs machined out of the box. There's really no excuse for that. I think they don't care much because it's the best 5 digit sub available, and there's enough demand to improve it.
Looks like the clasp on my QC may have been a JF, since it has the pin that is indented like gen. I'm not sure if the JFs also had batches woth off-center coronets though.
My plan is to eventually install a gen tube and crown, VR/VS 3135, gen date wheel, gen LEC crystal(maybe gen 295-CAR), gen clasp or complete bracelet, gen bezel insert, and possibly gen bezel assembly. If it comes out the way I plan, I'll keep it until I get a gen 16610.